Doug Fischer: "A LOT LESS African-American WARRIORS today than 25 years ago"

[ma51f]

Yup,Mosley & Bradley & Alexander & Ward & the Punisher may be the last 1's left & Mosley is on his way out to boot!!

mosley: end of his career, maybe one last fight

Bradley: warrarior? nope dont think so

Alexander: hmmm

Ward: headbutter cheater

Punisher: yep, for sure

[brick wall]

I think they don't want to risk dementia, alzheimers and death more than they already do. How do you ask someone to risk their long term health when they already are risking the short term health just to be entertained?

are you out of your mind? you don't need to ask a fighter to take the risk because they already took it the moment the decided to fight. nobody forced them to fight...it's their decision not the boxing fans. boxing is a brutal sports and brutality is one of the reason that makes it exciting to boxing fans.

[Frank Ducketts]

Doug Fisher is so damn annoying. I wish he'd go away already. I hate his voice, his face and most of all his warped opinions.

Doug Fisher, EFF YOU, YOU BANANA FACED LIZARD!

...lol

[brick wall]

But you're not in the ring seeing what the fighters are seeing.

While your sitting on your couch eating lays potato chips yelling at the tv because so and so won't throw a punch.

He's in the ring, seeing that his opponent is setting him up for a counter punch if he throws at a particular opening.

Give me a specific example.

what specific example you want really?
as i've said i'm a boxing fan not a fighter so i look at these things on the perspective of a boxing fan. and all these things you're bringing up are circumstantial. do you think i would consider every opening a good opening for this fighter if his opponent is a good counterpuncher?

[Darkstar]

I agree with everything he said but "toughest fighters I’ve ever witnessed were African Americans (Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Chris Byrd, Bernard Hopkins and Mark Johnson come to mind)"

Did he just say Bernard Hopkinks and Chris Byrd were some of the toughest fighters hes ever seen?

They got paid millions but didnt stop for a solid exchange their whole careers.

[brick wall]

Wow I see why you choose to call yourself brick wall. Your as dumb as a pile of rocks!

everything in this world is a give and take process moron. if you go to a grocery store, you pick up something and pay for it. then you go home, use the product but you found out it's not as good as the store advertised it to be...what you gonna do? you go back to the store and return the product right? you might even yell at the customer service or the store manager.
in boxing we can't do that. once you pay to see a fight and it's done, it's done. no return, no exchange. the best you can do is not to patronize fighters who only thinks about business and fights for selfish reasons.

[brick wall]

your argument is null and void by our own ridiculous quotes, it is like your saying that guys should be entertaining first then focus on winning after being entertaining and that is RIDICULOUS

and your comebacks was even worse, your debating because you don't want to be wrong, you feel that your way is RIGHT and it is not because that is not how boxing works, sure as a selfish boxing fan I would love to see two guys just stand in the middle of the ring and punch each other in the head until someone goes down, sure it is entertaining, but I also can't be mad at the guy that chooses to use ALL OF HIS SKILLS and is willing to find another way to win then to just stand and trade back and forth until someone goes down

we as fans are not getting HIT so it is easy for us to say do this or do that when we are on the outside looking and to say what should and shouldn't be because again we are not getting HIT with those punches, Defense might not be entertaining TO YOU but it is entertaining to others, I enjoyed watch Pernell Whitaker make his opponents look so bad and so slow, that was entertaining TO ME, others called it "Running" or what ever which is fine, I enjoy watching Mayweather counter to hell out of his opponents for 12 Rounds, it would be selfish for me to say "HEY MAYWEATHER GO FOR THE KO" when he is pitching a shutout and is picking his opponent apart

fans want things THEIR WAY but Boxing and SPORTS IN GENERAL doesn't work like that, in Baseball sometimes their will be Home Runs and sometimes it won't be just like Boxing sometimes it will be KO's and sometimes it won't be, but to expect a fighter to focus entertaining first instead of winning...that is the dumbest **** I ever heard lol

cut the bull**** moron. you're so dumb it takes you years to come up with a reply. i already made a lot of posts to rationalize my view. you already lost the flow of discussion that renders you useless like a tiny insect in this topic. so shut the **** up and do what you can do best...a spectator.

[Gino Ros]

Did he just say Bernard Hopkinks and Chris Byrd were some of the toughest fighters hes ever seen?

They got paid millions but didnt stop for a solid exchange their whole careers.

chris byrd was a natural lhw who faced some of the biggest fighters and made vitali quit.

i think that is tough.

[Darkstar]

chris byrd was a natural lhw who faced some of the biggest fighters and made vitali quit.

i think that is tough.

Cmon, made Vitali quit? lol. He didnt do anything but lose every round and got very lucky Vitali tore his rotator cuff.

He was willing to fight the best out there, I will give him that.

[Calilloyd]

I agree with everything he said but "toughest fighters I’ve ever witnessed were African Americans (Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Chris Byrd, Bernard Hopkins and Mark Johnson come to mind)"

Did he just say Bernard Hopkinks and Chris Byrd were some of the toughest fighters hes ever seen?

They got paid millions but didnt stop for a solid exchange their whole careers.

Apparently you don't know much about their careers.