Pacquiao, bad for Boxing. (Good article)

[shadeyfizzle]

Ok so if all those inspectors missed seeing Tonys trainer put inserts in his gloves is it not out of the question that Tony may not have seen or felt the inserts during the Mosely fight like he said.

That and how many fights has margarito had in the US??? Missing them once is one thing but you cant possibly tell me that every single inspector that's inspected his gloves in the US have all been idiots and ****m Richardson the only one with a good eye.

[| THE KING |]

This dude must have lost a bet or two.. people still hating?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't feel that I need to worry. Boxing will survive a Pacquiao-Margarito fight. It has survived a convicted rapist's come-back, it has played genial host to convicted felons and made heroes of them...

I wonder if Floyd Patterson suffered any condemnation for defending against Sonny Liston who had been in prison for armed robbery. I wonder too if armed robbery was/is less life-threatening than loaded hand wraps.

A number of retired boxers who committed crimes much more heinous than hand wrap offenses have even been elevated to the Hall of Fame (e.g., Carlos Monson). Did boxing suffer? I dunno. It later had the glory days of Leonard, Hearns, Duran, De La Hoya...

I condemn cheating as much as the next guy, but I just can't see how boxing can be in a worse situation as a result of Pacquiao fighting Margarito when it has tolerated matches that had a convict as one of the protagonists. Why, boxing was even televised from some prison yards!

I can't remember boxing having been tarnished by the meeting of LightHeavyweight contenders James Scott (who was an inmate) and Eddie Gregory (later, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad) which was televised by NBC from Rahway Prison.

The damage that Pacquiao-Margarito may bring to boxing is just being overstated.

Respectfully crimes outside the ring are different. Those men disrespected themselves. Margarito cheated and disrespected the sport.

[Konstantin]

Fans dont care about what people did to "disrespect" the sport or anything for that matter. The good of the sport does not rest on the hardcore fans who whine about every single negotiation and dollar. It rests in the masses who buy fights based on names or potentially good fights.

[grayfist]

Respectfully crimes outside the ring are different. Those men disrespected themselves. Margarito cheated and disrespected the sport.

Am I to take it that boxing thinks it's ok to commit crimes against society but intolerable to break its (i.e., boxing's) rules?

Criminals do not only disrespect themselves but society as a whole. Should disrespect for the sport be given greater weight than disrespect towards society?

Do pads containing traces of Plaster of Paris be considered of graver concern than a gun carried by a convicted felon so much so that there are calls to ban a fighter suspended after getting caught with those pads while none is heard for a fighter who carried a deadly weapon in spite of a previous conviction for armed robbery? Must the door be shut to the former and the welcome mat be spread for the latter? (I refer to James Kirkland, who, per reports, is about to be released from jail and shall soon resume chasing a belt as Golden Boy Promotions eagerly pave his path.)

I dunno, my friend. From where I sit, that scene just looks quite a bit askew.

[shadeyfizzle]

Am I to take it that boxing thinks it's ok to commit crimes against society but intolerable to break its (i.e., boxing's) rules?

Criminals do not only disrespect themselves but society as a whole. Should disrespect for the sport be given greater weight than disrespect towards society?

Do pads containing traces of Plaster of Paris be considered of graver concern than a gun carried by a convicted felon so much so that there are calls to ban a fighter suspended after getting caught with those pads while none is heard for a fighter who carried a deadly weapon in spite of a previous conviction for armed robbery? Must the door be shut to the former and the welcome mat be spread for the latter? (I refer to James Kirkland, who, per reports, is about to be released from jail and shall soon resume chasing a belt as Golden Boy Promotions eagerly pave his path.)

I dunno, my friend. From where I sit, that scene just looks quite a bit askew.

Its all politics. If i recall correctly Tyson had a hard time getting liscenced when he got out of jail as well. Nobody wants to be the 1st to help the "criminal" but they'll get liscenced somewhere and when they put together a few good wins the other states will follow and forget because society is fickle and everyone wants to be friends with a winner.

[grayfist]

Its all politics. If i recall correctly Tyson had a hard time getting liscenced when he got out of jail as well. Nobody wants to be the 1st to help the "criminal" but they'll get liscenced somewhere and when they put together a few good wins the other states will follow and forget because society is fickle and everyone wants to be friends with a winner.

That word again: politics.

One can only hope that infractions are dealt with in accordance with the magnitude and weight of the deed, in the context of deeds of other denizens of the sport in society.

Oh, well...

[Pin Galarga]

That and how many fights has margarito had in the US??? Missing them once is one thing but you cant possibly tell me that every single inspector that's inspected his gloves in the US have all been idiots and ****m Richardson the only one with a good eye.

Sometimes they get blinded with CASH.. Poor leaches

[The Big Dunn]

Am I to take it that boxing thinks it's ok to commit crimes against society but intolerable to break its (i.e., boxing's) rules?

Criminals do not only disrespect themselves but society as a whole. Should disrespect for the sport be given greater weight than disrespect towards society?

Do pads containing traces of Plaster of Paris be considered of graver concern than a gun carried by a convicted felon so much so that there are calls to ban a fighter suspended after getting caught with those pads while none is heard for a fighter who carried a deadly weapon in spite of a previous conviction for armed robbery? Must the door be shut to the former and the welcome mat be spread for the latter? (I refer to James Kirkland, who, per reports, is about to be released from jail and shall soon resume chasing a belt as Golden Boy Promotions eagerly pave his path.)

I dunno, my friend. From where I sit, that scene just looks quite a bit askew.

I get where you are coming from but we are only discussing this within the boxing realm. Kirkland deserved to go to jail, Marg doesnt. That said, if Kirkland kills someone in the ring it is not criminal it is tragic. If Marg, with loded gloves does so its criminal.

In essence, the other men committed crimes against society, paid their debt, and returned to work afterwards. Marg cheated the sport so why he doesn't owe society anything his debt to boxing is not being liscensed.

Look at it this way. ******* use is illegal. If a player tests positive in the NFL you get a 4 game ban. ******** is legal. You get caught ******** on an NFL game you get a year suspension or more. ******* use doesn't compromise the integrty of the sport but ******** does.

Kirkland having a loaded gun doesn't compromise boxing's integrity only his own. Marg's gloves compromises the sport because we are not seeing a fair competition.

[Boxin']

Mosley = Cheater, who beat fighters thanks to roids.

Margarito = tried to cheat 1 time

Double Standards...

And since when did you have to "deserve" fights. If it makes money, it makes sense. That's how boxing works. Its all about $$$

*****s complaining about fighters "deserving" fights is hilarious. What did JMM do to deserve a fight against Floyd at 3 weight classes above his natural weight? he didnt do **** but the fight made money so it made sense, same with Pac-Marg...