former cuban national heavyweight champion luis ortiz in action aug 24

[joe strong]

what Channel ??? telemundo? telefutura? Showtime? HBO ? HBO PPV lol ?

im not sure...id love to see him fight.releford is a tough,durable journeyman & to fight him in his 3rd fight is a nice step in developing a career properly.hes 31 so hes got to move fast.

[cubano11]

Really? I'm shocked he had as good of a career as he had.

Is Despaigne, Jhonson or Hernandez going to do big business in their divisions? They seem like they are a cut below the best Cuban defectors.

Gamboa, Lara, Rigondeaux are greats...the rest are just ok figthers

There are 3 guys in Irland...you hear about them??? Garcia, Acosta and Mike Perez

[Fox McCloud]

Gamboa, Lara, Rigondeaux are greats...the rest are just ok figthers

There are 3 guys in Irland...you hear about them??? Garcia, Acosta and Mike Perez

I have heard about them... it's super weird that they ended up in Ireland IMO.

What happened in Hernandez's only loss?

How about that Yan Barthlemy guy? He really has not started out very well as a pro.

[cubano11]

I have heard about them... it's super weird that they ended up in Ireland IMO.

What happened in Hernandez's only loss?

How about that Yan Barthlemy guy? He really has not started out very well as a pro.

Hernandez is bored and has a glass chin...Barthelemy is shot and without power...

[Fox McCloud]

Hernandez is bored and has a glass chin...Barthelemy is shot and without power...

If you are bored, you should make a topic explaining the basics of all the Cuban defectors (just the ones with good amateur backgrounds... I don't much care about the random dudes who escaped and aren't that good)...

I really like Cubans, because they all just have such a silky smooth style and are always just SO damn good.

[cubano11]

If you are bored, you should make a topic explaining the basics of all the Cuban defectors (just the ones with good amateur backgrounds... I don't much care about the random dudes who escaped and aren't that good)...

I really like Cubans, because they all just have such a silky smooth style and are always just SO damn good.

the thing is my english is not that well to do that....im sorry

[Fox McCloud]

the thing is my english is not that well to do that....im sorry

It's cool.

Who will be the first Cuban to a title (minus Gamboa... he's obviously going to get one first... his current fake WBA title doesn't count though)?

I think Lara is on pace, but no one wants to fight him because he brings no money to a fight. Rigondeaux is tight, and could probably win now, but he has no fights, so no one is going out of their way to lose to a guy with 5 fights. Also, his career stalled with issues outside of the ring.

It'd be tight if it was some B level Cuban like Yordanis Despaigne that did it... He is the least impressive that I've seen so far (haven't seen Barthlemy).

[killacash]

the thing is my english is not that well to do that....im sorry

Dwiens421, lol that means he dont feel like doing it.

[cubano11]

It's cool.

Who will be the first Cuban to a title (minus Gamboa... he's obviously going to get one first... his current fake WBA title doesn't count though)?

I think Lara is on pace, but no one wants to fight him because he brings no money to a fight. Rigondeaux is tight, and could probably win now, but he has no fights, so no one is going out of their way to lose to a guy with 5 fights. Also, his career stalled with issues outside of the ring.

It'd be tight if it was some B level Cuban like Yordanis Despaigne that did it... He is the least impressive that I've seen so far (haven't seen Barthlemy).

i think Lara because hes with GBP and they are moving him quickly than the others

[Fox McCloud]

Dwiens421, lol that means he dont feel like doing it.

Lol, thanks I put 2 and 2 together and got that out of what he said.

i think Lara because hes with GBP and they are moving him quickly than the others

Lol, I hope I'm not boring you with these questions. I just REALLY like the Cubans.

Despaigne... I don't see the talent. I hear he isn't as technical (which is evident when he fights), but he has power to make up for it. His power isn't deadly enough to carry him on the top level. I don't think he even wins a world title.