If Devon Alexander ever wants to be an ATG he should take page from Floyd Mayweather.

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  • Frank Ducketts
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    #51
    I don't think Kotelnik cleary won the fight at all, but DA should give Kotelnik a rematch because the fight was close, and if left questions. Who knows, maybe down the line they will rematch. The fight was very close, and an argument can be made that Kotelnik deserves a rematch. The same thing happened with PW-Martinez. The clear shots landed seems to give more credence than volume punching nowadays.

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    • jrosales13
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      #52
      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
      I don't think Kotelnik cleary won the fight at all, but DA should give Kotelnik a rematch because the fight was close, and if left questions. Who knows, maybe down the line they will rematch. The fight was very close, and an argument can be made that Kotelnik deserves a rematch. The same thing happened with PW-Martinez. The clear shots landed seems to give more credence than volume punching nowadays.
      And, that is how it is suppose to be.

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      • Allucard
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        #53
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        When Floyd Mayweather had a fight that people felt he lost. He immediately rematch Jose Luis Castillo. He didn't have to give Castillo an immediate rematch. He could of taken that close victory, that some felt he lost, and moved on. Fight somebody else. But, he did what a true champion is suppose to do. He dared to be great and gave Castillo an immediate rematch. Again when he really didn't have to.

        Alexander should do the same. Instead of worrying about Bradley and making an issue about 50-50 split when there was never an issue. He should be giving Kotelnik an immediate rematch. Why is he not pushing for this? Why are the fans not really pushing for this?

        This what separates true greatness from just being good. It separates the boys for the men. This was why Floyd was considered a HOF'er before becoming "money" while Alexander might just end up being a good fighter from his era but falls short of HOF status.
        I agree. But son, Floyd is no HoFer, Floyd is the greatest fighter you, I and everyone younger than 65 has ever seen lace them up. And all respect to Manny I like him too, but prime for prime, Floyd and it's not even close.

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        • 1pretty boy1
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          #54
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          When Floyd Mayweather had a fight that people felt he lost. He immediately rematch Jose Luis Castillo. He didn't have to give Castillo an immediate rematch. He could of taken that close victory, that some felt he lost, and moved on. Fight somebody else. But, he did what a true champion is suppose to do. He dared to be great and gave Castillo an immediate rematch. Again when he really didn't have to.

          Alexander should do the same. Instead of worrying about Bradley and making an issue about 50-50 split when there was never an issue. He should be giving Kotelnik an immediate rematch. Why is he not pushing for this? Why are the fans not really pushing for this?

          This what separates true greatness from just being good. It separates the boys for the men. This was why Floyd was considered a HOF'er before becoming "money" while Alexander might just end up being a good fighter from his era but falls short of HOF status.
          he would never be like floyd not the same skills, there is no comparison in giving immediate rematch, i not accusing manny for not giving marquez an immediate rematch after their second fight, manny moved up and fought good fighters not less than marquez, so Alexander is taking competition even greater than Kotelnik the guy(Bradley) is the best in this division. so you can't blame him for this, he is taking the toughest fight for him out there. but he will never be like mayweather not the same skills.

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          • Lorily
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            #55
            Originally posted by -EX-
            I think it would be a good move but Alexander is never gonna lose a close decision in St. Louis...

            It would have to be somewhere else...

            If the Bradley fight can be made then no way will this happen though...
            I agree with this completely. Do you think Alexander would do a rematch outside of St. Louis? Something tells me he wouldn't, in which case, wouldn't the outcome likely be the same? If he would agree to a rematch outside of St. Louis I would give him a lot of credit... but I just don't see that happening.
            This would be the perfect time to do this, considering Bradley and Shaw aren't likely to come to a resolution any time soon.

            Originally posted by Medved
            I had Kotelnik up by 3 rounds and it seems everyone in the world but those 3 judges and Harold Lederman felt the same way as me. Dude had 9-3? What a JOKE!

            Anywhere else that fight wouldve been fought Kotelnik wouldve won, funny how both fights that night had the same score across the board 116-112 ACROSS the board. cough cough donking cough cough.

            People need to understand you dont fight in undefeated fighters hometowns and force them to fight outside their comfort zone. I mean Devon Alexander wouldnt sell 5000 seats outside his hometown.
            I thought that was odd as well.

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              #56
              I actually scored the fight to alexander on first viewing but after downloading the fight and watching it again i had the fight to Kotelnik 7-5 rounds, If the fight had been europe am sure Alexander would have caught a lose but luckily for him the fight was in america, Anyway it would be nice if Alexander gives Kotelnik a rematch if his fight with Bradley doesnt go ahead yet due to Bradley's promotional problems.

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              • jrosales13
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                #57
                Originally posted by Allucard
                I agree. But son, Floyd is no HoFer, Floyd is the greatest fighter you, I and everyone younger than 65 has ever seen lace them up. And all respect to Manny I like him too, but prime for prime, Floyd and it's not even close.
                No he is not, just leave my thread please.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by 1pretty boy1
                  he would never be like floyd not the same skills, there is no comparison in giving immediate rematch, i not accusing manny for not giving marquez an immediate rematch after their second fight, manny moved up and fought good fighters not less than marquez, so Alexander is taking competition even greater than Kotelnik the guy(Bradley) is the best in this division. so you can't blame him for this, he is taking the toughest fight for him out there. but he will never be like mayweather not the same skills.


                  First of all Manny did offer JMM an immedite rematch after the first fight if I am not mistaken. JMM turned to down to take way less money and fight Chris John. Pac also offered JMM a third fight which JMM priced himself out.

                  Alexander said if Bradley fight can't happen then bring on Ortiz. I seriously can't say that Ortiz is clearly a better tougher opponent than Kotelnik.

                  So is apples and oranges.

                  Why bring up Pac?

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                  • RubenSonny
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13


                    First of all Manny did offer JMM an immedite rematch after the first fight if I am not mistaken. JMM turned to down to take way less money and fight Chris John. Pac also offered JMM a third fight which JMM priced himself out.

                    Alexander said if Bradley fight can't happen then bring on Ortiz. I seriously can't say that Ortiz is clearly a better tougher opponent than Kotelnik.

                    So is apples and oranges.

                    Why bring up Pac?
                    I swear Pac refused to fight him after the second fight?

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                    • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Considering he doesnt have half the talent Floyd did at the time he fought Castillo. It might just be a good idea to move on and fight the Number 1 guy in the division. Which is who Castillo was.

                      Bradley is the Number 1 guy. Fight him.


                      He also didnt have a hurt rotator cuff. Which means he just overall struggled.

                      Floyd wasnt healthy the first fight.

                      If he fights Kotelnik the outcome will be the same.

                      this is actually a great post burner. why risk a big money fight vs bradley by fighting kotelnik & possibly losing again? the fact that devon looks exposed & beatable gives him great money fights vs khan, bradley & possibly some of the big names at 147.

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