Which one of these boxers were most overrated?

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  • Agent Mulder
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    #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Of course it is cuz you obviously don't know what you're talking about when you have Oscar, Judah, Floyd, and Pac on that list you name Tito.

    I mean I hear Pac top 5 ATG, Floyd the best fighter of all time. How is that not overrated? But, yet Tito is overrated? GTFOH.
    Pacquiao, as much as he is an overrated one dimensional midget, would beat the **** outta Trinidad. That's my logic with that. I mean, I remember Trinidad being some crazy boxing superstar...I never saw it. & PLEASE...I bet if I made a poll and asked who won the ODLH Tinidad fight the majority would pick Oscar. Come on man, you're acting like this is news to anyone..look at Tito's face during the fight..that dude KNOWS he was losing. Clearly defeated. ODLH gave that no skill having cornball a BOXING LESSON. ****, he didn't even believe he won.

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    • treason1
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      #32
      i have to go with mayweather . because he only fights fighters that are past their prime like judah , mosley , ocar

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      • STRUGG
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        #33
        PBF easy.......................................by *****s that is....................war battered gatti, 38 year old shane..................unfocus chico...........................gift decision JLC...................................mental midget ZAB.................Baldo the great......................fat hatton and JMM.......................

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #34
          Originally posted by El Protagonista
          It's Zab Judah without a doubt. All anybody talks about is his potential.

          He is constantly used as a benchmark when people try to justify wins for Cotto (My favorite fighter), Clottey, and Mayweather

          Anytime people try or tried to analyze Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Cotto, or Clottey, they'd always bring up their "great win" over Zab Judah.
          Zab has more talent then any fighter right now IMO. He just isn't a professional. He could be training for a world title fight and if Lil Kim and Jay-Z shoot a video in Brooklyn his dumb ass goes.

          IMO, if he had floyd's or Bhop's professionalism he would be undefeated with wins over floyd, hatton, tsyu, cotto and who ever else stepped in with him. Southpaw, fast, hits hard, tough. His 1st 4 rds vs floyd was the best boxing I've seen since Meldrick Taylor was giving it to Chavez.

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          • JK1700
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            #35
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Its not that they underestimate him, its that he lost to the best of his era by stunningly wide margins IMO. Bernard destroyed him. No matter what jrosales says ODH beat him BAD for 6-7 rds. Winky destroyed him bad.

            Tito is a great champion and HOF fighter. But he was dominated by the best.
            I agree about the ODLH fight. They really should have had a rematch but it didnt happen. Despite his "running" I still though Oscar did enough to win. But the judges didnt see it that way. The first time I watched the fight I thought Oscar was completely dominating and got robbed. But I watched it again and realised that the HBO cheerleaders were going wild whenever Oscar threw a punch and that it was actually not as one sided as some people would like to think. I had it 115-114 for Oscar.

            He got dominated by Hopkins. But I think with what he had already done at Welterweight and Light-Middleweight. Tito had already built a solid legacy. After the Hopkins fight he was never truly the same. I value Wright's win because of how dominant it was but it was not a prime Felix Trinidad. His hunger and drive for success was gone at that point.

            I still consider him an ATG.

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            • V.WEBB
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              #36
              Take em to school, JRosales.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #37
                Originally posted by JK1700
                I agree about the ODLH fight. They really should have had a rematch but it didnt happen. Despite his "running" I still though Oscar did enough to win. But the judges didnt see it that way. The first time I watched the fight I thought Oscar was completely dominating and got robbed. But I watched it again and realised that the HBO cheerleaders were going wild whenever Oscar threw a punch and that it was actually not as one sided as some people would like to think. I had it 115-114 for Oscar.

                He got dominated by Hopkins. But I think with what he had already done at Welterweight and Light-Middleweight. Tito had already built a solid legacy. After the Hopkins fight he was never truly the same. I value Wright's win because of how dominant it was but it was not a prime Felix Trinidad. His hunger and drive for success was gone at that point.

                I still consider him an ATG.
                As we should. he is great. But when you lose the way he did to Winky, Bhop (especially since don set the tourney up basically for felix), and beat ODH because ODH ran after building a lead you have to factor that in when assessing his career.

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                • Agent Mulder
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  As we should. he is great. But when you lose the way he did to Winky, Bhop (especially since don set the tourney up basically for felix), and beat ODH because ODH ran after building a lead you have to factor that in when assessing his career.
                  yessir!

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                  • V.WEBB
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                    #39
                    Yes, Tito lost to Winky, but that was hardly a prime Tito. Let's be real here. That a whole 4 years after he lost to Hopkins.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JK1700
                      I don't know why people are picking Judah.

                      The only person that overrates him is himself.
                      Because, everybody always gives Judah a hell of a shot to beat elite fighters. When in reality he always has a slim chance of winning that is overrated.

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