How Did Judge Jack Blackburn Give The 11th To Pascal?

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  • Medved
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    #31
    Originally posted by cortdawg25
    i dont know how he gave the 11th to pascal or even his final score. it look like he was on the fix....good thing pascal was actually winning the fight. but it was a close fight despite chad not showing up. i don't think pascal was clearly winning. I felt like the fight was on the table and pascal didn't look to good at the end of the fight. I think Chad is the better fighter and i don't think he will ever look like that again. but pacasl won it 6-5 and blackburn score was just ridiculous, the other judges score was kinda bad too.
    I have a question, what did you score the Devon Alexander fight?

    Do they show something special in USA? How the **** was the Pascal fight close? Are you guys high or are you getting some strange feed that the rest of the world doesnt get? You guys are such morons thats its funny to the rest of the world.

    You cry about bias and corruption when the only people who are biased and corrupted are YOU guys. lol close fight. Even Gary Shaw had Pascal up by 3 and thats Dawson's PROMOTER.

    I see nothing has changed and the ameritards keep making excuses upon excuses for everything except the fighters. Where was all the rage for kotelnik when he whooped Devons ass?

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    • mines a pasty
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      #32
      what does it matter about the 11th? Your over hyped American loser got BEAT.

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      • cortdawg25
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        #33
        Originally posted by Megamasterking
        Only reason i see is that he was closer to the ring than all of us and saw Pascal looking at his corner and showed them that Dawson wasn't hurting him with those fast but weak shots. In an amateur fight, fast shots win no power can make you win but in a pro fight it's different take a look at this:

        53. The three (3) judges shall be seated on opposite sides of the ring, adjacent to the ring apron. They shall be seated alone with no person in close proximity. The judges shall watch every phase of the contest and make a decision if the contest lasts the limit of rounds scheduled. The decision of the judges shall be based primarily on effectiveness, taking into account the following points:

        (a) a clean, forceful hit landed on any vulnerable part of the body above the belt should be credited in proportion to its damaging effect;

        (b) aggressiveness is next in importance and points should be awarded to the boxer who sustains the attack of a round by the greatest number of skilful attacks;

        (c) defensive work is relatively important and points should be given for cleverly avoiding or blocking a blow;

        (d) points should be awarded where ring generalship is con****uous. This comprises such points as the ability to quickly grasp and take advantage of every opportunity offered; the capacity to cope with all kinds of situations which may arise; to foresee and neutralize an opponent's method of attack; or to force an opponent to adopt a style of boxing at which he is not particularly skilful;

        (e) it is advisable to deduct points when a boxer persistently delays the action of a contest by clinching and by lack of aggressiveness;
        (f) points should be deducted for a foul even though it is unintentional and not serious enough to warrant disqualification; and

        (g) a boxer should be given credit for sportsmanlike actions in the ring and for close adherence to the spirit as well as the letter of the Rules, and for refraining from taking technical advantage of situations unfair to an opponent.

        Knowing this can change some views...
        ok lets say pascal wasn't hurt despite that left uppercut relly hurting him, but lets just say he wasn't hurt.... pascal didnt throw or hardly land anything in that round so how he win the 11th

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          #34
          Originally posted by deanrw
          Sorry I meant the score from the 11th round specifically
          Ive seen articles where writers have said they dont know how Woodburn gave the 11th to Pascal.

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            #35
            Originally posted by cortdawg25
            ok lets say pascal wasn't hurt despite that left uppercut relly hurting him, but lets just say he wasn't hurt.... pascal didnt throw or hardly land anything in that round so how he win the 11th
            Where is your source that he gave the 11th to Pascal? DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OR ARE YOU MAKING UP EXCUSES? You want bull**** / bias / robbery for a home town fighter? look no further than Alexander - Kotelnik where 90% of boxing analysts had it for Kotelnik but somehow lederman had it 9-3 and the joke judging by the judges. Judging made Kotelnik lose.

            Judges didnt make Dawson lose, Dawson made Dawson lose. You guys have no proof if he gave him the 11th round. Even if he did, it had no impact on the fight. I had it 8-3 but it shouldve been 9-2 as I was giving Dawson a freebie.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Medved
              I have a question, what did you score the Devon Alexander fight?

              Do they show something special in USA? How the **** was the Pascal fight close? Are you guys high or are you getting some strange feed that the rest of the world doesnt get? You guys are such morons thats its funny to the rest of the world.

              You cry about bias and corruption when the only people who are biased and corrupted are YOU guys. lol close fight. Even Gary Shaw had Pascal up by 3 and thats Dawson's PROMOTER.

              I see nothing has changed and the ameritards keep making excuses upon excuses for everything except the fighters. Where was all the rage for kotelnik when he whooped Devons ass?
              Im not against 106-103, Im specifically talking about the 11th round, thats it. Dont know why people are saying so what Chad lost, I know that, but in no way can anyone give the 11th to Pascal. Things like that shows the motivation for a particular judge. Im not sure Woodburn would give it to Chad if he knocked Pascal out.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Medved
                Where is your source that he gave the 11th to Pascal? DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OR ARE YOU MAKING UP EXCUSES? You want bull**** / bias / robbery for a home town fighter? look no further than Alexander - Kotelnik where 90% of boxing analysts had it for Kotelnik but somehow lederman had it 9-3 and the joke judging by the judges. Judging made Kotelnik lose.

                Judges didnt make Dawson lose, Dawson made Dawson lose. You guys have no proof if he gave him the 11th round. Even if he did, it had no impact on the fight. I had it 8-3 but it shouldve been 9-2 as I was giving Dawson a freebie.
                There are articles on it, why would I just pick out the 11th round for no reason.

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                • cortdawg25
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Medved
                  I have a question, what did you score the Devon Alexander fight?

                  Do they show something special in USA? How the **** was the Pascal fight close? Are you guys high or are you getting some strange feed that the rest of the world doesnt get? You guys are such morons thats its funny to the rest of the world.

                  You cry about bias and corruption when the only people who are biased and corrupted are YOU guys. lol close fight. Even Gary Shaw had Pascal up by 3 and thats Dawson's PROMOTER.

                  I see nothing has changed and the ameritards keep making excuses upon excuses for everything except the fighters. Where was all the rage for kotelnik when he whooped Devons ass?
                  i guess i am bias becuase i had devon winning another close fight by a couple rds. kotelnik just wasn't busy enough for me and just covered up when devon was punching. pascal on the other hand was darting in and out. he showed some movement...some ring generalship imo. i do believe pascal won.. i just don't think it was 108-101 or 106- 103.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    Ive seen articles where writers have said they dont know how Woodburn gave the 11th to Pascal.
                    Yeah because HBO reported it during their broadcast. I am just wondering where HBO got the information. Was it second hand from Gary Shaw or directly from the commission.

                    118-11 was a stinky score. IMO anything between 115-114 to 117-112 was acceptable.

                    The 4th and 5th rounds especially could have gone either way and could alter the scores dramatically depending on ones preference.

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                    • cortdawg25
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Medved
                      Where is your source that he gave the 11th to Pascal? DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OR ARE YOU MAKING UP EXCUSES? You want bull**** / bias / robbery for a home town fighter? look no further than Alexander - Kotelnik where 90% of boxing analysts had it for Kotelnik but somehow lederman had it 9-3 and the joke judging by the judges. Judging made Kotelnik lose.

                      Judges didnt make Dawson lose, Dawson made Dawson lose. You guys have no proof if he gave him the 11th round. Even if he did, it had no impact on the fight. I had it 8-3 but it shouldve been 9-2 as I was giving Dawson a freebie.
                      9-2...what fight was you watching. i think u might be a lil bias or anti-american!

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