Out of all the current boxers only 3 have a problem with PED Testing.

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  • Nuurzhaelan
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    #81
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    I will start off my post by saying yes he did test positive for a banned substance by the IBF... it's his fault, and he's an idiot for doing so.

    With that said, not all banned substances are created equal, just like all crimes are not created equal.

    A person who robs a house, and a person who murders 3 people, have both broken the law, but you certainly wouldn't hold them to the same counts or responsibility.

    What I am trying to say is, What Roy tested positive for... was not a hardcore (needle injection) HGH, EPO.. SERIOUS steroid. Although, it may have been banned by the IBF... it was nationally legal... and sold throughout the entire country in stores like GNC in every mall outlet everywhere.

    Does that make it right? No of course not. But I ask you to at least look at how severe is the chemical, when it was put in energy drinks and sold in outlets.

    You will never find HGH or hardcore steroid muscle building roids in any store in a mall.

    There are levels of severity.


    I felt the need to really research myself, the differences in the steroid issues between fighters.

    James Toney

    Tested Positive for: boldenone and stanazolol

    Toney tested positive for boldenone and stanazolol, and Batchelder tested positive for stanazolol and oxandolone, Garcia said. If they don't appeal, the boxers would be suspended one year from the date of their fight.

    Three-time champion James Toney tested positive for steroids and could face a one-year suspension from boxing.



    Generic name: Boldenone Undecylenate

    Boldenone undecyclenate is a very popular steroid. This steroid is only available legally at a veterinarian clinic. Boldenone is a highly anabolic, moderately androgenic steroid. For this very reason, it is typically taken in a stack with other steroids like testosterone if you are on a mass cycle or perhaps with winstrol if you are on a cutting cycle. The main benefit of taking equipoise is that it increases protein synthesis in the muscle cells. Boldenone gives you slower but much more high quality gains in muscle as opposed to the normal "quick" muscle gains that you would expect from a testosterone. You can expect around 3 weeks before you start seeing results and they are not going to be staggering, but will be "more permanent" than any gains you would get from any of the multiple testosterones that are available. This steroid stays active in the system longer than most of the testosterones as well. This makes equipoise a poor choice if you run the possibility of being drug tested.



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    Not all steroids are created equal.


    Different severities.
    In strength sports that are drug free, even more than one cup of caffeine will flag a competitor and ban him from the drug free sport. So...yeah, I am glad you made this argument.

    I love RJJ, and sometimes I find it difficult to defend him for this...but you make a very valid point. Similar to the one I make against weapons in the ring and steroids. Steroids are less egregious an infraction, in my opinion, than are weapons (plaster).

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    • Eaner0919
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      #82
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      be careful dude. don't let facts get in the way of a childish illogical opinion.
      my bad bruh I will go back to being a ******* according to some dude over in Horus' thread

      me a *******?

      imposterous!!!

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      • Mr Punch.
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        #83
        Floyd's minnions don't need to keep harping on the drug tests, haven't they heard, FM has a NEW set of excuses. This fight is starting to look more like a fantasy than anything else. FM does NOT /never DID wanna' fight this guy. The new excuses include, "my woman-beating trainer could go to jail, I want a 90-10 split and Manny just had sex last month". so if the punk-ass woman-beater (rightfully) goes to jail, what, does FM 'retire' again? Man, it's just TOO much DRAMA with FM. He's willing to leave ALL this money on the table to protect his zero, rather than fight MP. He hasn't said **** for months now, but if AM upsets MP, you gotta' KNOW, he'll be all over the news claiming what HE would've done to MP. If MP trounces AM, then you KNOW, they'll NEVER fight. Don King thinks he can make the fight, how, attaching a set of nuts to FM?

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        • MindBat
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          #84
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Wrong nobody hates drug testing we just don't feel that one ***ing boxer should be intitled to make up special rules for his boxing matches whenever he feels like it. If the boxing commissions make it a rule nobody is gonna complain including Manny himself.
          Why is Ariza not being blamed for opening his mouth and raising su****ion about what he gives or doesn't give Manny?

          If Floyd were not willing to submit to the same tests, your comment would make a lot more sense. Floyd would have been crucified a long time ago.

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          • Alibata
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            #85
            Originally posted by Siren 666
            Floyd's minnions don't need to keep harping on the drug tests, haven't they heard, FM has a NEW set of excuses. This fight is starting to look more like a fantasy than anything else. FM does NOT /never DID wanna' fight this guy. The new excuses include, "my woman-beating trainer could go to jail, I want a 90-10 split and Manny just had sex last month". so if the punk-ass woman-beater (rightfully) goes to jail, what, does FM 'retire' again? Man, it's just TOO much DRAMA with FM. He's willing to leave ALL this money on the table to protect his zero, rather than fight MP. He hasn't said **** for months now, but if AM upsets MP, you gotta' KNOW, he'll be all over the news claiming what HE would've done to MP. If MP trounces AM, then you KNOW, they'll NEVER fight. Don King thinks he can make the fight, how, attaching a set of nuts to FM?
            In other words the sporting world sees that Manny is willing to test in an acceptable manner and Floyd is on vacation!!!!!

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #86
              Originally posted by Alibata
              In other words the sporting world sees that Manny is willing to test in an acceptable manner and Floyd is on vacation!!!!!
              Wait a minute. When the offer was made in january you didn't say 14 days was ok. Suddenly in July and August you are ok with 14 days?

              Your a good dude but you need to defend this opinion. How can you and other Pac fans say 14 days is acceptable now when you ALL were totally against it in january?

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              • Vadrigar.
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                #87
                Originally posted by pistol whip
                Yeah this is usually the last refuge of a man with no argument and no point. I don't need a ***ing gif to make my argument but good luck with that.
                The ******ity of the post doesn't need pointing out. Quit b*tching.
                Last edited by Vadrigar.; 08-17-2010, 01:51 PM.

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                • Alibata
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  Wait a minute. When the offer was made in january you didn't say 14 days was ok. Suddenly in July and August you are ok with 14 days?

                  Your a good dude but you need to defend this opinion. How can you and other Pac fans say 14 days is acceptable now when you ALL were totally against it in january?
                  Don't matter what I think really... Certain people here think opinions don't matter in making history. Collectively opinions are a powerful force. When we look back at the great fights and fighters, It is all collective opinions that Hagler/Hearns was atg fight, that SRR is the greatest # for # ever. All opinions that most would agree with. Collectivity ain't on Floyd's side here. He got to do something about it before it destroys his legacy.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Alibata
                    Don't matter what I think really... Certain people here think opinions don't matter in making history. Collectively opinions are a powerful force. When we look back at the great fights and fighters, It is all collective opinions that Hagler/Hearns was atg fight, that SRR is the greatest # for # ever. All opinions that most would agree with. Collectivity ain't on Floyd's side here. He got to do something about it before it destroys his legacy.
                    BOOOOOO! dude GTFOH with that BS response. You were against 14 days when it was the best offer on the table. When it was the 2nd best offer on the table in July you were suddenly for it. That's shameful.

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                    • Alibata
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      BOOOOOO! dude GTFOH with that BS response. You were against 14 days when it was the best offer on the table. When it was the 2nd best offer on the table in July you were suddenly for it. That's shameful.
                      If I was still against it....Would it matter???? Floyd is screwed regardless. I happen to think Manny is a clean fighter to begin with,,, and my approval of Manny decisions is based on shutting the haters up. Now that Manny has masses on his side, it is irrelevant.

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