Anyone else find the level of sympathy for Mike Tyson cringeworthy?

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  • GymRat
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    #31
    I feel the need to paste my previous post in another thread here:

    Tyson didn't **** Desiree Washington. Read up on it in some Tyson books, especially the one by Peter Heller. She had a history of claiming ****, even as a teenager when she was ashamed of herself and afraid of her father's judgement of her having sex. Not two mention the only evidence she had of **** were to abrasions on her vagina (which happens when a 220 pound man has sex with a 90 pound girl, especially Mike Tyson, as he was known to like rough sex), and her half-assed story of **** (which changed multiple times and was full of holes). You mean to tell me a woman is going to get ****d at 2 AM in a hotel room and not a peep is going to be heard?

    While in prison, Tyson wrote a letter to his friend who happened to be an ESPN boxing commentator/interviewer. It went roughly "I'll never admit to raping that woman, even if it lessens my time in here, because I just didn't do it. However, there are about 5-7 other things I've done in my life which are far worse than that for which I am in prison for, so I feel I'm in the right place."

    The real story is that Mike treated her like he treated every other woman- wham, bam, thank you mam. In Desiree's mind, the final straw was when he didn't walk her back to the limo (the limo driver testified that Disiree was in a pissy mood and quoted her as saying "Who does he think he is?"). On top of that, Don King believed that Tyson needed to become a "martyr for the blacks" or something rather, and assigned his tax attorney to defend Mike in the **** trial, because behind closed doors, Don King thought the black community would see Tyson as a martyr of some sort.

    As for the credibility of Robin Givens (and her mother Ruth Roper, working as a team), just remember what Mike said to Steve Lott after seeing Robin crying: "Remember Steve, she's an actress. A very good one." Also remember that Robin Givens lied to Mike and said she was pregnant with his kid so he would marry her. And then what happened when he married her? A few months later she divorced him and took his money.

    When "StarchedLOL" was confronted with the facts in another thread, he simply ignored them and proceeded to attempt to distract by resorting to the typical "Tyson nuthugger", etc. No response to the facts.
    Last edited by GymRat; 08-17-2010, 02:31 PM.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #32
      Yea man, Tyson was as guilty of raping that woman as Kobe was.

      I feel people deserve a second chance at life and Tyson now understands the ****** mistakes he made in his early life.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #33
        I don't feel bad for him because he had it all at a very early age and screwed it up as bad as anyone can, that was his fault and no one elses for making many bad choices.

        I have nothing against him though and wish him the best with the rest of his life.

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        • P-Killer
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          #34
          Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
          I guess you have sympathy for child ******ers as well then, because most of them have been ******ed as well when they were young, so by your logic their actions are excusable. A lot of people are poor and grow up in violence, the overwhelming majority of them do not turn to violence against innocents.

          That's a straight up excuse, people need to own their actions.
          A lot of people hit women and a lot of stars get accused of ****.

          Ever thought that mentally he is not right and the sport he does didn't really help?

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            #35
            Originally posted by StarchedLOL
            I personally find it sickening how this convicted rapist and thug is treated like some sort of tragic figure,he's human and we all have our faults but what he did and how people feel sorry for him annoys me like hell.this lunatic was a rapist a wife beater and a complete thug and still still treat him like a victim.He and all his supporters blame everything on everyone else except when it came time to tyson getting exposed and beaten badly in japan,then they will say it was tysons fault just so they can discredit douglas credit for his win.


            Tysons nuthuggers will call holyfield a religious hypocrite when tyson is an even worse hypocrite and a rapist.they will call lennox lewis a coward who waited for tyson to get old when it was tyson who ducked him several years earlier.I just dont know why people still even support this rapist must be down to some nostalgia or something,when the fell into the well marketed tyson hype
            His made mistakes, paid the price for them and has now moved on, why cant you?

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            • WladIsTheChamp
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              #36
              Originally posted by GymRat
              I feel the need to paste my previous post in another thread here:

              Tyson didn't **** Desiree Washington. Read up on it in some Tyson books, especially the one by Peter Heller. She had a history of claiming ****, even as a teenager when she was ashamed of herself and afraid of her father's judgement of her having sex. Not two mention the only evidence she had of **** were to abrasions on her vagina (which happens when a 220 pound man has sex with a 90 pound girl, especially Mike Tyson, as he was known to like rough sex), and her half-assed story of **** (which changed multiple times and was full of holes). You mean to tell me a woman is going to get ****d at 2 AM in a hotel room and not a peep is going to be heard?

              While in prison, Tyson wrote a letter to his friend who happened to be an ESPN boxing commentator/interviewer. It went roughly "I'll never admit to raping that woman, even if it lessens my time in here, because I just didn't do it. However, there are about 5-7 other things I've done in my life which are far worse than that for which I am in prison for, so I feel I'm in the right place."

              The real story is that Mike treated her like he treated every other woman- wham, bam, thank you mam. In Desiree's mind, the final straw was when he didn't walk her back to the limo (the limo driver testified that Disiree was in a pissy mood and quoted her as saying "Who does he think he is?"). On top of that, Don King believed that Tyson needed to become a "martyr for the blacks" or something rather, and assigned his tax attorney to defend Mike in the **** trial, because behind closed doors, Don King thought the black community would see Tyson as a martyr of some sort.

              As for the credibility of Robin Givens (and her mother Ruth Roper, working as a team), just remember what Mike said to Steve Lott after seeing Robin crying: "Remember Steve, she's an actress. A very good one." Also remember that Robin Givens lied to Mike and said she was pregnant with his kid so he would marry her. And then what happened when he married her? A few months later she divorced him and took his money.

              When "StarchedLOL" was confronted with the facts in another thread, he simply ignored them and proceeded to attempt to distract by resorting to the typical "Tyson nuthugger", etc. No response to the facts.
              Just as you used Tyson's victim past history against her, you can do the same for Tyson. He had a history of violence against women and men and he is just a crazy mofo, able to bite a person's ear of in front of millions, could imagine what he is capable of when no one was looking.

              It terms of the no screaming thing; it's very easy to imagine like you said, a 210+ pound male athlete muffling the screams of a 90 pound woman with one of his hands on her mouth. Besides, did it ever occurr that she was so scared that she didn't even bother screaming, because he probably told her or she thought he would kill her if she did?

              Givens called the cops multiple times on Tyson and there were multiple photos of her badly beaten face after she was sent to the emergency room. She left him after he beat her, which I don't blame her for.

              The martyr things is ridiculous, he was making King hunderds of millions, there is no way King cared to make him a martyr. Oh, and Tyson didn't just have one lawyer, he had a whole team of them, kind of like OJ, except he couldn't play the race card like OJ could.

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              • WladIsTheChamp
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                #37
                Originally posted by P-Killer
                A lot of people hit women and a lot of stars get accused of ****.

                Ever thought that mentally he is not right and the sport he does didn't really help?
                What's your point? That the media made them do it? The stars that beat their wifes would have been wife beaters even if they weren't famous, that's who they are. Being famous does not give someone license to do those things. Like I said, own your actions.

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                • bigdlb12
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                  Wow....just wow...you must be one sick mother****er. Who cares? Cause if no one stops him, that next time COULD be your sis, daughter, or girlfriend.

                  You hate women don't you?
                  damn wish I would of read this before giving you good karma, but fyi I dont have any of what you mentioned , no sis no daugthers no GF.
                  No, I love women, I treat them all well, anyone who knows me knows that. What I mean by "who cares?" is why bring it up now? he did time (not full term) its been what like 20 years?

                  But in Tysons case its diff., he didnt go break into a house and **** a girl.
                  He didnt kidnap someone then ****d them.
                  The girl was with him, I am sure they were drinking, if she went to his hotel room, dont tell me that she didnt know what was going to happen when they got up there or what was expected.

                  Now maybe it played out like this, Tyson wanted some, she didnt, he talked her into it and she cried **** or maybe tyson held her down, ripped her panties and pushed his meat inside of her.

                  Tyson served some time, about 3 years. some people have gotten more and less for the same crime.

                  what I am saying is, like with Akon, remember when he took that girl on stage and pretended he was screwing her? Ok now we all know she was only 13, yet Akon is the one who got in trouble, the girl got in somehow, underage,hanging out where only adults should (18+), what do you think happens at these places?

                  what did the girl that was with Tyson think would happen in the hotel room? They were going to go watch movies? Play cards? Listen to Music? or Screw?
                  Last edited by bigdlb12; 08-18-2010, 09:09 AM.

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                  • WladIsTheChamp
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bigdlb12
                    damn wish I would of read this before giving you good karma, but fyi I dont have any of what you mentioned , no sis no daugthers no GF.
                    No, I love women, I treat them all well, anyone who knows me knows that. What I mean by "who cares?" is why bring it up now? he did time (not full term) its been what like 20 years?

                    But in Tysons case its diff., he didnt go break into a house and **** a girl.
                    He didnt kidnap someone then ****d them.
                    The girl was with him, I am sure they were drinking, if she went to his hotel room, dont tell me that she didnt know what was going to happen when they got up there or what was expected.

                    Now maybe it played out like this, Tyson wanted some, she didnt, he talked her into it and she cried **** or maybe tyson held her down, ripped her panties and pushed his meat inside of her.

                    Tyson served some time, about 3 years. some people have gotten more and less for the same crime.

                    what I am saying is, like with Akon, remember when he took that girl on stage and pretended he was screwing her? Ok now we all know she was only 13, yet Akon is the one who got in trouble, the girl got in somehow, underage,hanging out where only adults should (18+), what do you think happens at these places?

                    what did the girl that was with Tyson think would happen in the hotel room? They were going to go watch movies? Play cards? Listen to Music? or Screw?

                    So what you are saying that if a girl comes up with you to your room the expectation is that she always wants to sex with you? Is she allowed to change her mind in the middle of it, or can you proceed to do whatever you want just because she came up to the room with you?

                    This is a typical excuse that rapists use - "By wearing that dress she was asking for it". The fact that he didn't break into her house or kidnap her doesn't mean it's not ****, most ****s occur between acquantences and friends of the victim or their family.

                    I stand by the statement that you have a sick and ****ed up understanding of the world and of how to treat women. Just cause you gave me a green K, doesn't change that.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by StarchedLOL
                      good although it will never make up for him raping that girl mind you.
                      If you believe he actually ****d that ***** then you are as dumb as the **** jury that convicted him. That money hungry whore knew exactly what she was doing when she got into his limo. The greedy ***** ruined the career of the most exiting fighter in boxing history I just hope Tyson really got to tear her ******* up.

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