106-103 Pascal. It wasn't close really, Pascal won very very clearly too.
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Nah, it's you who doesn't have a clue how to score.
The generalship changed hands from round to round often up until late, when Jean moved clearly ahead, and I'm not going to score Jean's more ineffective flurries in rounds when Dawson did the cleaner work.
Close inspection of the video reveals a close fight.Comment
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I agree. Im glad you know this. Because people cofuse close competitive fight with close scorecardsComment
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Exactly. Like midway through the fight he almost had enough rounds to take flight for the rest of the fight and not throw anything. It was very competitive, but nowhere near close enough to even argue a draw.Comment
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I had it exactly the same, Dawson actually ahead by one round at the time of the stoppage......CD-JP......
rd1:10-9
rd2:9-10
rd3:9-10
rd4:9-10
rd5:10-9 this was close, could go either way
rd6:10-9
rd7:10-9 besides that flashy punch that people thought hurt dawson(which i think didn't) and the crazy flurry that missed just about everypunch, i gave it to chad
rd8:9-10 it was dawson all through the round till pascal nearly took him out and since the purpose of the game is damage, pascal takes it
rd9:9-10 close round, both fighters hurt, chad probabley landed more, but pascal did more damage
rd10:10-9 besides a late rally which consisted of 5 bodyshots, a low blow and a rabbit punch, dawson clearly
rd11:10-9 dawson without a doubt, pascal hurt 3 times, ready to go down, could've been an 10-8 round, we'll never know
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You can definitely make a case for Pascal winning rounds 1 and 5 and therefore winning the fight 106-103 as 2 of the 3 scorecards had it (I think round 4 was close too, could have gone to Dawson as well), but round 7 for example, I think there's no way you can really give it to Pascal, when Dawson was landing the whole round and literally got hit with only one good shot, which wasn't that much of a game changing hit either.
The third scorecard, the 108-101 was a real shocker to me, so yeah, I disagree with the obvious vast majority who think this was a crystal clear points win for Pascal. I saw a very disappointing and unusually inactive Chad Dawson, but Jean Pascal was nowhere near dominating him.
That said, I have to admit I totally underestimated Pascal before the fight, I already saw big things (Bute, Super Six winner,...) ahead for Dawson after Pascal and Cloud.Last edited by rochemback; 08-16-2010, 11:14 AM.Comment
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After 10 full rounds I had Pascal winning 7 rounds to 3. I could probably score it 6 to 4 on a rewatch, though.
If Dawson had gone on to win the next two, excluding KD's, he would still have lost imo. He really just didn't do enough and he looked very lacklustre for long periods. Pascal was definitely less effective but he was more active and definitely had intent - he was fighting how HE wanted to fight.Comment
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I agree that Pascal was better in using his gameplan, but he was very inactive too, even more than Dawson. If Dawson would have thrown his usual multi-combos, he could have given Pascal a lot of trouble, as we saw in the 11th round.After 10 full rounds I had Pascal winning 7 rounds to 3. I could probably score it 6 to 4 on a rewatch, though.
If Dawson had gone on to win the next two, excluding KD's, he would still have lost imo. He really just didn't do enough and he looked very lacklustre for long periods. Pascal was definitely less effective but he was more active and definitely had intent - he was fighting how HE wanted to fight.
Really, from 106-103 Pascal to 106-103 Dawson, I think all scores are reasonable, although most people won't agree with the latter, I guess...Comment
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I'm open to people scoring it closer than me, at a possible push I could probably narrow it down to a couple of rounds difference. I just really can't give the fight to Dawson, though. Nothing agaisnt teh guy at all, in fact I was proper gutted for him when he lost - his face was so drained and melancholic!I agree that Pascal was better in using his gameplan, but he was very inactive too, even more than Dawson. If Dawson would have thrown his usual multi-combos, he could have given Pascal a lot of trouble, as we saw in the 11th round.
Really, from 106-103 Pascal to 106-103 Dawson, I think all scores are reasonable, although most people won't agree with the latter, I guess...
Got a lot of respect to Pascal, I really like him and I think the game plan of breaking up Chad's rhythm and engaging in spurts was well drawn out and executed. If Pascal had better conditioning (nervous energy maybe?) it definitely would have been more decisive.Comment
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Yeah, as much as I was gutted for Dawson, you had to feel happy for Pascal, you could see how he really wanted it. Also the image while they announced the scorecards, Pascal on the left dancing around already celebrating and Dawson being bloody and groggy from the headbutt and generally looked very disappointed, it's hard to think of Dawson as a possible winner after that.
He'll be back and whatever it was that caused his unusual inactivity (I don't think it was Pascal's power alone, without taking anything away from a very good performance), I am sure he'll be trying to change that and I think he'd do better in a re-match.
Dawson-Cloud, Pascal-Bute and then winners face each other, sounds very good to me and would most likely leave us with a clear light heavy champion to face the Super Six winner just in time.Comment
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