Skill wise he's might just be top 10-15..his resume isn't too great, but I'm sure when it's all said in done he'll have a very good looking resume...like somebody said earlier, he could've been greater
I don't think a truly great fighters really came about until Manny emerged after the Oscar fight,
WTF? Manny became mainstream with that fight, anybody semi familiar with boxing knew he was destined for great things after his wars with Barrera, Morales, and Marquez
Floyd is a tricky one. Has he got ATG defense abilities and skills i would say yes without even knowing all the great defensive boxers of all time.
But he hasnt got a ATG resume against great boxers in their primes. There was a time when he could have fought the Cottos and Margaritos of this world but didnt. He missed the boat there, but he could be fighting the sergio martinezs or Paul Williams of this world but isnt doing it. Its hard to talk about Floyd because i cant read his mind and intentions. You get the feeling he dont even care if people think he is an ATG. If he dont care, i dont think we should have any urgency to put him somewhere his heart isnt in. He may say he is the Goat but actions speak louder than words. And worser boxers than Floyd have even proclaimed themselves the best when they clearly arent.
Berhard Hopkins in my opinion has a higher claim to be an ATG than Floyd has.
So by that equation he isnt ATG. ATG is top 20 boxers shall we say.
If Floyd really wanted to be an ATG there are specific things he could do to get there. He would make hit list of all the best boxers he could try get a fight with and fight them to make himself look great to get him where he needs to be. Sure he might deep down not think he can do it. But he has to be seen to take the risk. Fight sergio martinez or paul williams now. Not tommorow. Only Floyd knows what he wants. Fight Pavlik.....believe me it will count at the end of the day. Sure PBF might lose, but hey thats the risk you take. Is it the zero thats holding you back?
Cotto has fought Yuri foreman. Floyd in my opinion isnt retired so could have fought Yuri for starters. It all counts at the end of the day. Too much indecisivness and stooling, and beating up on yesterdays names like SSm.
I often hear he is supposed to be one. But i have to admit when i watch him fight, he dont seem to be a great fighter to me. Elusive of course. But i keep thinking if all one wants is to not get hit, i think anyone could look and fight like him.
What the ****, is this guy serious? ROFL, go lace up and spar whilst trying to remotely resemble Mayweather's brilliant style - you'll end up looking like an idiot.
But if you throw 1000 punches you are putting yourself in the position to be countered and landed on.
If like Floyd you only throw 300 punches, you are being overly negative. The ref might stop the fight because PBF isnt throwing back. Dirrell vs Froch comes to mind. And Dirrell is like Floyd come to think of it.
ROFL, yes nice terms 'overly negative' - negative of what exactly? Yeah, Mayweather's style is 'overly negative' yet he manages to dominate so many of his opponents? You act like his the Clottey in the Pacquiao fight. Fact is, he remains the most accurate boxer in connect percentage in boxing? So I don't know what you're trying to get at? Your criticism is that he doesn't throw much, yet he manages to LAND more than his opponents whilst they double his punch output. It's how much you land not how much you throw, I honestly felt dumber reading your comments so I didn't bother reading your last.
Regarding Mayweather as an ATG, his skill set would put him in top 10. Right now though he would be top 30-40 ATG - I really hope hope he fights Pac and one more fight against Martinez.
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