Do divisions get unfairly labeled "weak" if the top fighters are not American?

[infamous larryx]

heavyweight division aint bad imo..but mw and cw is terrible

[infamous larryx]

American fighters are the best athletes. Mexicans and other Latin nations produce the best warriors.

European fighters are mostly boring defensive ones who use a jab and fight with a high guard. These fighters are vastly inferior to the americans/latinos and only succeed when there is a shortage of talent.

wow this post is ignorant and ban worthy

[BattlingNelson]

youre kidding me, you think that Middleweight is not a weak division? granted, its getting a lot better, but its been crap for a long time now...since the Bernard Hopkins days.

the light heavyweight division is also really weak, and there are plenty of Americans there.

usually you can tell by just watching the fights, but heres an easy way to do it...when subpar 168lbers can move up to LHW and become top 10, it seems a bit weak. likewise, when the not best LHW can move up to HW and become top 5, it seems a bit weak.

most everyone will say 168 is a deep division, and theres only two top good Americans there.

Good post.

LHW is stacked with yanks on top yet most boxingfans knows that this division is weak and rebuilding as the old guard seek their long overdue pension.

[Tyson.]

wow this post is ignorant and ban worthy

"In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighers is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new." Floyd Mayweather.

Im not ignorant I just go by what the experts are saying.

[S.G.]

American fighters are the best athletes. Mexicans and other Latin nations produce the best warriors.

European fighters are mostly boring defensive ones who use a jab and fight with a high guard. These fighters are vastly inferior to the americans/latinos and only succeed when there is a shortage of talent.

So what you're saying is that the Europeans are the most intelligent boxers?

[Dynamite Kid]

Like middleweight, heavyweight and cruiserweight, for example.

And do divisions like 140 get called "loaded" by Max Kellerman and others if it's top fighters happen to be Americans?

HW definitely, i dont know if its cause they are being xenophobic against Euro fighters, or whether its genuinely cause they cant sell the Euro fighters to the American public when they dont have any affiliation through were they were born.

America never really took to Lennox Lewis, he begrudgingly got respect in the end because (a) he was the last (perceived)great HW (b) because he beat Tyson and Holyfield, however look at the way American fans still crucify him for losing to Rahman by KO.

[Tyson.]

So what you're saying is that the Europeans are the most intelligent boxers?

No they are boring and bad for the sport.

Noone wants to see people with high guards and jabs they want to see punches and heart shown by the fighters.

[minasyan]

Good thread

and yes divisions do get labeled weak cos they're aren't any Americans similar to how K brothers are not in the pound for pound rankings

[BattlingNelson]

American fighters are the best athletes. Mexicans and other Latin nations produce the best warriors.

European fighters are mostly boring defensive ones who use a jab and fight with a high guard. These fighters are vastly inferior to the americans/latinos and only succeed when there is a shortage of talent.

Stereotyping in abundance. NSB at it's terrible best.

[Steak]

side note: when Chris Byrd was the 'king' of the division in 2005, Americans were still calling it pathetic, even when almost every top fighter at the time was American.
a bad division is a bad division, plain and simple.