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  • #61
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
    Bully... rewatch the Urango fight again.

    He showed the same things to me... the difference was that Kotelnik was more able to take advantage of the flaws than Urango did.

    But before the stoppage Urango's pressure was getting closer and closer.

    I remember me and you talking about it after the fight.
    Yes, but many times it takes a near loss and for you to get outboxed on the big stage for you to step your game up and excell. A great example of this is Manny Pacquiao after losing in most peoples opinion to Marquez. Another is Khan who doesn't come in trying to **** anymore after getting stopped quick.

    I was listening to him on a radio show last night, and he seemed dissappointed with his loss, he didn't give any excuses, but said he wanted to go toe to toe and put a show on for his fans and some guests (guessing the guests were Mayweather and Holyfield).

    Alexander is 22, and age where most fighters are no where near contender status. he has the speed, reflexes, and tools to correct his errors, since he did move his head a few times in the fight, and looked damn good doing it. He just needs to spend a few months on putting it all together like Manny and Amir did and have two fights against Maidana/ Kotelnik type opponents and show that he has fixed, or improved his problems.

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    • #62
      im gone have to consign most of what ree****yaluss has said in this thread. ppl drunk the devon kool aid to soon he might become a great fighter down road but for me personally i never saw it.

      5 mil on bradley UD

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      • #63
        Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
        Urango was hitting Devon with a TON of right hooks. Up until the stoppage, Devon was definitely winning, but Urango was beginning to come on.

        Devon does not beat Bradley. Now, or ever IMO.
        I wouldn't take it that far. he can easily improve, he has all the tools to do so. His intangibles are pretty damn good too, he showed a ton of heart and no quit. he could have easily pulled a Ortiz and tried to find a way out with the cut, but he was gettign outboxed so he did what he could, which was try to triple Kotelniks output.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by street bully View Post
          Yes, but many times it takes a near loss and for you to get outboxed on the big stage for you to step your game up and excell. A great example of this is Manny Pacquiao after losing in most peoples opinion to Marquez. Another is Khan who doesn't come in trying to **** anymore after getting stopped quick.

          I was listening to him on a radio show last night, and he seemed dissappointed with his loss, he didn't give any excuses, but said he wanted to go toe to toe and put a show on for his fans and some guests (guessing the guests were Mayweather and Holyfield).

          Alexander is 22, and age where most fighters are no where near contender status. he has the speed, reflexes, and tools to correct his errors, since he did move his head a few times in the fight, and looked damn good doing it. He just needs to spend a few months on putting it all together like Manny and Amir did and have two fights against Maidana/ Kotelnik type opponents and show that he has fixed, or improved his problems.
          Pacquiao also never fought another great counter puncher with timing after he fought Marquez, either.

          I agree... he's young... but.

          Age is not the be all end all in boxing.

          The guy has had over 300 amateur fights, which is ridiculous.

          I've seen a handful of them and he has shown the SAME thing then, as he does in his first 21 pro fights...

          This is how he's been fighting.. this style has led him to success and two world titles... sometimes fighters feel that, since this is how they got here... this is the best way to fight, because it has only led to success.

          Coupled with the fact, that he has had so many fights, fighting the same way.

          He's not an old dog in terms of age... but in the fight game he's an experienced dog who has been boxing this way for a long time, in a lot of fights.

          I question how fast he can alter his fight game... especially when he is NOW entering a phase in his career where he is going to be fighting the elite fighters at 140 in the next year.

          When he was 10-0 this problem should have been corrected.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by street bully View Post
            Yes, but many times it takes a near loss and for you to get outboxed on the big stage for you to step your game up and excell. A great example of this is Manny Pacquiao after losing in most peoples opinion to Marquez. Another is Khan who doesn't come in trying to **** anymore after getting stopped quick.

            I was listening to him on a radio show last night, and he seemed dissappointed with his loss, he didn't give any excuses, but said he wanted to go toe to toe and put a show on for his fans and some guests (guessing the guests were Mayweather and Holyfield).

            Alexander is 22, and age where most fighters are no where near contender status. he has the speed, reflexes, and tools to correct his errors, since he did move his head a few times in the fight, and looked damn good doing it. He just needs to spend a few months on putting it all together like Manny and Amir did and have two fights against Maidana/ Kotelnik type opponents and show that he has fixed, or improved his problems.
            he doesn't want to see maidana yet, but you're right, he just needs seasoning. he should go for like a lamont peterson type or a rematch. this is simply a case of a guy who was being moved along too fast and has been overly protected.

            he hasn't fought anyone with durability AND skills at a world class level. witter was just a mess

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            • #66
              Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx View Post
              Here goes Bradley underestimating Kotelniks skills again. Why does'nt Kotelnik get the credit for just fighting a good fight. I don't understand how you catch all of the other guys punches and land everything you throw butstill lose. Kotelnik punched Devon out plain and simple. Bradley does'nt have the same skill set that Kotelnik does. Yes he's black and more athletic but that does'nt mean he's more skilled. Bradley vs Kotelnik would be good.
              i lol for some reason

              bradley wins out boxing devon or being in his chest infighting thats another flaw he show us, his inside game is not up to par. kotelnik is a good fighter too

              Originally posted by street bully View Post
              Yes, but many times it takes a near loss and for you to get outboxed on the big stage for you to step your game up and excell. A great example of this is Manny Pacquiao after losing in most peoples opinion to Marquez. Another is Khan who doesn't come in trying to **** anymore after getting stopped quick.

              I was listening to him on a radio show last night, and he seemed dissappointed with his loss, he didn't give any excuses, but said he wanted to go toe to toe and put a show on for his fans and some guests (guessing the guests were Mayweather and Holyfield).

              Alexander is 22, and age where most fighters are no where near contender status. he has the speed, reflexes, and tools to correct his errors, since he did move his head a few times in the fight, and looked damn good doing it. He just needs to spend a few months on putting it all together like Manny and Amir did and have two fights against Maidana/ Kotelnik type opponents and show that he has fixed, or improved his problems.
              thats the thing bully he dont have that luxury it looks like the bradley fight next. he got about 5 months to get it together

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              • #67
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                Pacquiao also never fought another great counter puncher with timing after he fought Marquez, either.

                I agree... he's young... but.

                Age is not the be all end all in boxing.

                The guy has had over 300 amateur fights, which is ridiculous.

                I've seen a handful of them and he has shown the SAME thing then, as he does in his first 21 pro fights...

                This is how he's been fighting.. this style has led him to success and two world titles... sometimes fighters feel that, since this is how they got here... this is the best way to fight, because it has only led to success.

                Coupled with the fact, that he has had so many fights, fighting the same way.

                He's not an old dog in terms of age... but in the fight game he's an experienced dog who has been boxing this way for a long time, in a lot of fights.

                I question how fast he can alter his fight game... especially when he is NOW entering a phase in his career where he is going to be fighting the elite fighters at 140 in the next year.

                When he was 10-0 this problem should have been corrected.
                It never showed then though, since he was winnign easy. The good thing from this, is that we will see where he is at in his next two fights. Upperbody movement is something that can be implemented after a few months of practice, he is lucky its his upperbody and not his legs.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by patpatpts View Post
                  i lol for some reason

                  bradley wins out boxing devon or being in his chest infighting thats another flaw he show us, his inside game is not up to par. kotelnik is a good fighter too



                  thats the thing bully he dont have that luxury it looks like the bradley fight next. he got about 5 months to get it together
                  I doubt him and Bradley fight in Jaunuary. Shaw just reported yesterday that Bradley is open to fight if the money is right. that's something he has been saying for the past few months.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                    Pacquiao also never fought another great counter puncher with timing after he fought Marquez, either.

                    I agree... he's young... but.

                    Age is not the be all end all in boxing.

                    The guy has had over 300 amateur fights, which is ridiculous.

                    I've seen a handful of them and he has shown the SAME thing then, as he does in his first 21 pro fights...

                    This is how he's been fighting.. this style has led him to success and two world titles... sometimes fighters feel that, since this is how they got here... this is the best way to fight, because it has only led to success.

                    Coupled with the fact, that he has had so many fights, fighting the same way.

                    He's not an old dog in terms of age... but in the fight game he's an experienced dog who has been boxing this way for a long time, in a lot of fights.

                    I question how fast he can alter his fight game... especially when he is NOW entering a phase in his career where he is going to be fighting the elite fighters at 140 in the next year.

                    When he was 10-0 this problem should have been corrected.
                    this is the first time I've seen him fight that someone took away his sunday punch. he didn't know what to do but fight. he couldn't box the way he wanted to so he fought instead.

                    cunningham was imploring him to stop trading and flurry and move, but he couldn't cuz he wasn't getting away with what he was used to getting away with

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by street bully View Post
                      It never showed then though, since he was winnign easy. The good thing from this, is that we will see where he is at in his next two fights. Upperbody movement is something that can be implemented after a few months of practice, he is lucky its his upperbody and not his legs.
                      The thing is... who does he fight next?

                      Does he fight someone where he stylistically looks good again?

                      Because that isn't going to prove it to me again.

                      Fight Kotelnik again.

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