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  • mathed
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    #21
    Thats you pick. I have mine. People doing back flips because of what Kotelnik did without realizing that Bradley fights NOTHING like that.

    Are we forgetting how ****ty Bradley looked vs. Abregu?? People jump the gun too quick. Just because Kotelnik presented some problems doesnt mean Bradley can do the same.

    Ceilings...are we forgetting that Bradley shut him out virtually every rd? Your bias is amazing, he won every rd except one, unlike your boy Alexander who got a HUGE gift after getting his azz whipped.

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      #22
      Originally posted by mathed
      Thats you pick. I have mine. People doing back flips because of what Kotelnik did without realizing that Bradley fights NOTHING like that.

      Are we forgetting how ****ty Bradley looked vs. Abregu?? People jump the gun too quick. Just because Kotelnik presented some problems doesnt mean Bradley can do the same.

      Ceilings...are we forgetting that Bradley shut him out virtually every rd? Your bias is amazing, he won every rd except one, unlike your boy Alexander who got a HUGE gift after getting his azz whipped.
      Cmon man this is a good thread lose the ******* style of posting.

      Gift, robbery, etc. Save it. When I rewatched the fight I scored it for Kotelnik but in the heat of battle I can see why they would give it too Alexander people acting like they are dumbfounded on how Devon could win. Like wtf.

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      • mathed
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        #23
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Im not talking about who's better Im talking about style. Bradley fights NOTHING like him. Nothing.

        Im sure you would say Cotto is a better fighter than Margarito correct? What happened when they fought? Its about style.
        Correct sir, and so far Bradley's style has shut dudes down.....so why hate with no proof?

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          #24
          Originally posted by No Ceilings

          Thats you pick. I have mine. People doing back flips because of what Kotelnik did without realizing that Bradley fights NOTHING like that.


          Are we forgetting how ****ty Bradley looked vs. Abregu?? People jump the gun too quick. Just because Kotelnik presented some problems doesnt mean Bradley can do the same.
          Im just curious but do you think any of the top guys in jww would beat Alexander after this fight or do you think Kotelnik was just an unfortunate styles matchup?

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            #25
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Cmon man this is a good thread lose the ******* style of posting.

            Gift, robbery, etc. Save it. When I rewatched the fight I scored it for Kotelnik but in the heat of battle I can see why they would give it too Alexander people acting like they are dumbfounded on how Devon could win. Like wtf.
            lolol, you are funny seeing as how Pac was never mentioned by me, that is on you my man...

            Hold up........did you say you gave it to Kotelnik?????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????you have got to be kidding me.....you had numerous threads/posts stating that Kotelnik won no more than 2 rds no more than 20 hrs ago........you have to be joking me.....you are kidding me.
            Last edited by mathed; 08-08-2010, 07:44 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by mathed
              Correct sir, and so far Bradley's style has shut dudes down.....so why hate with no proof?
              How is picking Alexander...hating?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                Im just curious but do you think any of the top guys in jww would beat Alexander after this fight or do you think Kotelnik was just an unfortunate styles matchup?
                I still have Alexander to beat Khan and Bradley I think Ortiz beats Devon. I think a wild card is Judah. No 140 Pounder outside of Paulie gets up from that uppercut.

                I think its Kotelniks style that threw Devon off. NO ONE at 140 fights like that dude. He was a tricky bastard last night. Cunningham caught on early but Deon didnt listen. He told him to move and box. There is no excuse why Devon couldt use his legs to trap Kotelnik into left hand bomb counter punches. It was between the ears he didnt listen to his trainer.

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                • Dick Buffman
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                  #28
                  Bradley didn't dominate Abregu.

                  He won rounds, but the rounds were competitive and he was backing up and fighting defensively trying to survive.

                  Don't pretend he pulled a Calzaghe/lacy here.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dick Buffman
                    What in bumfuckiing **** do people think is so damn great about Bradley?

                    I'm sorry, the dude's hit his peak and can't punch. His best asset is his movement, but that can be dealt with pretty easily by a guy with good timing.

                    Ortiz, Maidana and Khan all son him.

                    Alexander would be the most competitive, but he would k.o him too.

                    Thank you man...

                    People act like hes this tough last video game boss or some ****. He is flawed and beatable like all the 140 Pounders.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      I think Alexander would dominate Abregu as well. Kotelnik is a better fighter than Abregu on every level except power and its not even close. Hell Kotelnik would beat Abregu so I dont think Bradley last fight is something to be happy about. They both didnt look good.


                      They both didn't look good?

                      One fighter DOMINATED the other, at a new weight class, while not having QUITE his best performance.

                      The other fighter damn near got the **** beat out of him.

                      Alexander is a whole different beast than Abregu and Bradley is different from Kotelnik. It would be a completly different fight because Bradley fights nothing like Kotelnik.
                      Bradley is a whole different beast than Kotelnik.

                      You're right.. he doesn't he fights a **** load better.

                      Kotelnik showed me ELITE timing yesterday. Top notch timing. Bradley does not have that in arsenal.
                      Bradleys timing is far from bad.

                      And Bradley throws 4-6 punch combinations, something kotelnik did not take advantage of.

                      He also throws a lot MOAR punches than Kotelnik and has much better conditioning.

                      I saw Abregu gain Bradleys respect with some
                      I saw Kotelnik have ZERO respect for Devons fight game last night.

                      I also saw Abregu having respect for Bradley

                      hard punches and he looked like he felt them. Bradley doesnt have Kotelniks chin.
                      That can be mother****in debated.

                      Bradley took one of the biggest p4p punches on the CHIN from a punch he didnt see... got his ass up IMMEDIATELY and dominated the rest of his fight with Holt.

                      Bradley can handle his **** when he gets hit.

                      He also doesn't get hit as much as Devon because he has something Devon doesn't.


                      Wait for it.

                      Head movement.

                      Kotelnik is bigger than Bradley and stronger.
                      Taller doesn't mean bigger, you as a Williams fan should know this.

                      Bradleys Body strength is one of the strongest if not the strongest in the division.

                      it's absurd for you to say otherwise.

                      You've seen the training this kid goes through.

                      Kotelnik's accuracy is pretty good to from what I saw. He wasnt missing and is that due to Devons defense partly..yes. In a fight with Bradley the punches that landed on Abregu's shell have a much better chance to land on Bradleys grill.
                      So is Bradleys, especially when he is throwing multiple punch combinations, something Kotelnik did not take advantage of.

                      The punches Devon were throwing were being pulled back before they even landed.

                      Devon was punching AT Kotelnik not through him.

                      And again... Bradley MOVES his head and his body CONSTANTLY all 12 rounds.

                      It's not so cut and dry.

                      I still favor Alexander like I always have. Nothing changed IMO. Him and Kotelnik are VASTLY different fighters. I dont see what problems Urango caused him. Urango clocked him a few times but Devon showed a good chin won every round and knockoed him out cold.
                      Yeah... little more to that fight than so cut and dry.

                      Even Street Bully one of his biggest fans admitted to seeing that fight stating to turn in Urangos favor.

                      Urangos pressure was getting to Devon, and his punches were getting closer and closer.

                      Devon got out of that fight by landing two great punches... credit to him for it.

                      That doesn't change the fact that Devon still showed the same lack of headmovement and defense in that fight that he did last night.

                      It will be the end of him if he doesn't change it.
                      Last edited by THE REED; 08-08-2010, 07:50 PM.

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