Watched Alexander vs Kotelnik again this moring (while sober) my boy looked terrible.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Well ts you were dumb saying **** like he is the future and Bradley was ducking him based of fights against who for god sake?? Urango and a witter who Bradley beat and robbed kotelnik in england

he didn't look all that apart from the ko vs urango I had it close and Alex seemed to be fading a little. This is the same guy who got outboxed by hatton for 12th also

[patpatpts]

I respect the hell out of this post. You are always on point with your boxing knowledge and analysis, so I was disappointed when you was on some bull**** last night.

igg u tried to put them on game yesterday before the fight that devon defense his weak and about his stamina( his stamina takes a hit cause he not acccurate he wasting energy)

this is no excuse but i have to let yall know this. devon got sick last night. this whole week they had him at all events here since the day he got home from training and he didn't get any good rest. now with that being said im not going to ignore the fact that kotelnik wanted to win this fight cause that lil dude was doing his thang, and he puttin on my bro. i feel that they should have a rematch so he can redeem himself and leave no doubts. i know a lot of hatters were having a field day and was hoping he lose, but that wasn't the same devon last night, i knew something was wrong with him after the 4th round because before he never gets winded in fights and last night he looked very weak. he even threw up after the post fight press. now this is the truth and i don't care if don't believe me but i still got my bets on that he is going to beat bradley

see thats some bullsh^t. devon a young dude he dont really know no better this his first big fight in front of his people. he want to please everybody. he team should had him resting and going ova strategy

You know when someone starts a post with "this is no excuse", they're about to write a plethora of lame ass excuses.

lol lol

[bojangles1987]

He had a bad fight, all fighters have one. Khan had Prescott, Bradley had Holt, and Alexander now had Kotelnik, he will bounce back guys.

The thing is, it wasn't just a simple case of a night off. Many of the flaws that you could see in Alexander that were being ignored were finally taken advantage of. Now people who didn't really notice will look back and see that Alexander has always been that easy to hit, and has always been a very predictable offensive fighter.

This is no little problem for Alexander, there are major flaws there to shore up if he wants any chance against Bradley.

[Blubba]

Devon looked like a prospect who had one world class veteran opponent too soon last night which is surprising really considering his previous fights where he looked top notch against good competition.

Devon has alot of talent but he has things he needs to work on (like his defense) to help him compete at the top level.

This is what I don't understand. Good competition? Who exactly has he beaten? That is why I never understood the hype around this boy.

[patpatpts]

Well ts you were dumb saying **** like he is the future and Bradley was ducking him based of fights against who for god sake?? Urango and a witter who Bradley beat and robbed kotelnik in england

he didn't look all that apart from the ko vs urango I had it close and Alex seemed to be fading a little. This is the same guy who got outboxed by hatton for 12th also

people cover up his flaws when he got that ko. there was no ko last night so it was nothing distracting them from seeing his weakness. best believe if he ko kotelnik in the 8 round they would have did it again cause nobody every ko him

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

People got over-excited because of the manner of his win over Urango, a dynamic KO of a guy generally perceived as un-knockoutable at the weight.

It's funny how that kind of prevailing wisdom still reigns here -- the idea that there's any guy in a given weightclass who can't potentially be knocked out, being one example -- but you do find it, group-think accepted as fact, all over this forum.

So that's what Alexander's rep suddenly blew up on, knocking a dangerous Urango out spectacularly. Which was certainly deserving of credit, in and of itself.


But I personally didn't see anything in Alexander except punch-power to put him above Bradley...he hadn't shown himself near as rounded a technician or as sharp of a boxing intellect on the fly.

I thought his win over an older Witter was a lot less complete than Bradley's, for instance, even though he got the stoppage.


Now people are coming off their highs a bit and coming back down to reality.


Alexander is still more proven than Khan, though, for all those Khan propagandists. One hard fight with a guy Amir dealt with more comfortably doesn't change that.



Bradley > Alexander/Maidana (interchangeable) > Khan.

[wylout]

You know when someone starts a post with "this is no excuse", they're about to write a plethora of lame ass excuses.

and you know you a hatter, so fuc u

[Blubba]

People got over-excited because of the manner of his win over Urango, a dynamic KO of a guy generally perceived as un-knockoutable at the weight.

It's funny how that kind of prevailing wisdom still reigns here -- the idea that there's any guy in a given weightclass who can't potentially be knocked out, being one example -- but you do find it, group-think accepted as fact, all over this forum.

So that's what Alexander's rep suddenly blew up on, knocking a dangerous Urango out spectacularly. Which was certainly deserving of credit, in and of itself.


But I personally didn't see anything in Alexander except punch-power to put him above Bradley...he hadn't shown himself near as rounded a technician or as sharp of a boxing intellect on the fly.

I thought his win over an older Witter was a lot less complete than Bradley's, for instance, even though he got the stoppage.


Now people are coming off their highs a bit and coming back down to reality.


Alexander is still more proven than Khan, though, for all those Khan propagandists. One hard fight with a guy Amir dealt with more comfortably doesn't change that.



Bradley > Alexander/Maidana (interchangeable) > Khan.

This is pure hate.

[wylout]

see thats some bullsh^t. devon a young dude he dont really know no better this his first big fight in front of his people. he want to please everybody. he team should had him resting and going ova strategy


lol lol[/QUOTE]i agree and its not devon its don. don is the one who had him doing all that last week. but at the same time kotelnik was hungry last night so i can't make excuses. devon had a bad night and he will learn from it

[Ray*]

Love to watch this fight again to be honest, It was a difficult fight to score and you have to take other things into account but at first viewing 7-5 to Alexander for me.