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  • Gorilla Dogs
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    #41
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    just shut up.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
      My question has always been this; how would Floyd know a thing about what is in Manny's contract? Who is there to tell him theses things considering the bad blood between him and his company?

      Sounds like nothing but hot air from a loudmouth seeking attention.

      Maybe he got it from Oscar and Schafer because Manny was also a GBP fighter. Maybe they knew. Maybe that standard TR practice. Floyd used to be under that banner so maybe thats what was took from him.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
        My question has always been this; how would Floyd know a thing about what is in Manny's contract? Who is there to tell him theses things considering the bad blood between him and his company?

        Sounds like nothing but hot air from a loudmouth seeking attention.
        maybe he was paying arum 27%?

        it's just talk and people run with it.

        remember when he was talking crap about how nike only paid pac $70k.

        1. how would he know how much nike pays pac?

        2. if it's only 70k why the hell was he whining that he doesn't have big endorsements deals like pacquiao had with nike?

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          #44
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          Floyd did it.

          Arum got 750k.

          Floyd got 70 Million and counting.
          more than likely his contract was expiring and he just bought out an additional fight under Top Rank. Again there is no way Floyd (who is far from smart business wise) is pulling one over on Bob.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
            more than likely his contract was expiring and he just bought out an additional fight under Top Rank. Again there is no way Floyd (who is far from smart business wise) is pulling one over on Bob.

            If Floyd is smart doing anything its business wise. Getting out of a deal for under one million then making millions with Oscar and Hatton was a stroke of genius. Arum HATES Floyd for THAT reason. He didnt want to get rid of him.

            Which is why when he had the chance he tried to lock Floyd in a 3 fight deal to fight Marg, Hatton and Cotto.

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              #46
              Originally posted by No Ceilings

              Maybe he got it from Oscar and Schafer because Manny was also a GBP fighter. Maybe they knew. Maybe that standard TR practice. Floyd used to be under that banner so maybe thats what was took from him.
              Or maybe he is being his usual loudmouth self. You honestly think GBP woould disclose info like that to Floyd....a guy who is know for blabbing any and every thing to the public to make himself look better.

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                #47
                Originally posted by No Ceilings

                Maybe he got it from Oscar and Schafer because Manny is also a GBP fighter. Maybe they knew.
                maybe. i doubt it.

                remember pac signed with gbp and then arum counter offered and pac reneged on his deal with golden boy and tried to return gbp's money.

                you'd think arum's counter was better than gbp.

                so if arum got him back for 27% wth was golden boy offering 30%?

                doubtful.

                i doubt pacquiao would sign for something higher than top rank's standard percentage.

                unless maybe he worked out a deal for higher guarantees.

                i can see that.

                give arum , a bigger percentage but arum has to bump up his guarantees for every fight.

                who knows?

                these contracts are complicated.

                there's a reason why when reporters report fighter's income it's usually just a range estimate instead of something specific.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
                  Or maybe he is being his usual loudmouth self. You honestly think GBP woould disclose info like that to Floyd....a guy who is know for blabbing any and every thing to the public to make himself look better.
                  Wouldnt shock me..........

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings

                    If Floyd is smart doing anything its business wise. Getting out of a deal for under one million then making millions with Oscar and Hatton was a stroke of genius. Arum HATES Floyd for THAT reason. He didnt want to get rid of him.

                    Which is why when he had the chance he tried to lock Floyd in a 3 fight deal to fight Marg, Hatton and Cotto.
                    Floyd isn't smart business wise. He is just smart enough to surround himself with the right people who understand the business side of boxing. I say this because if he is as good as you or Floyd says he is, then it would show up in other business ventures Floyd has went into.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Floyd did it.

                      Arum got 750k.

                      Floyd got 70 Million and counting.
                      you have to work a deal out with them.

                      floyd at the time wasn't worth what pac is worth now.

                      it'd cost pac a lot more than that for arum to let him off his contract.


                      no point really. it'll probably cost him more money buying himself out and fighting under someone else for cheaper than to just stay with arum who is doing a good job making him good money.

                      i mean who's gonna run manny's career if he leaves arum? his own company?

                      you see how manny pac promotions fighters have been handled lately?

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