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  • Mech.
    Immortal Iron Fist
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    #51
    Originally posted by El Jefe
    ohh yeah my list

    #1 Floyd
    #2 Winky
    #3 Hopkins
    #4 Moralez
    #5 Hatton
    #6 Barrera
    #7 Corralez
    #8 Manny Paquiao
    #9 Zab Judah
    #10 Cotto
    Hop but no taylor? Pfffffff.

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    • AintGottaClue
      What for that be
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      #52
      did i just see james toney on a p4p list?

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      • Tha_Greatest
        YOU HATE FLOYD TOO
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        #53
        1.Morales(In my opinion, most imprssive win resume,and 2 losses which were at least close to Bar, but one was a a straight rob against Morales, only 1 real loss)

        2.Hopkins(i wont completely punish him for loss cause he did outfight Taylor but he still lost)

        3.Wright(Career is moving up, way up)

        4.Barrera(When he seems dead, Always comes back and wins another great win)

        5.R.Marquez(Owns his division)

        6.Corrales(May move higher in time)

        7.Mayweather(Beat Castillo and Corrales but no longer fights meaningful fights,Fight a good champ and ill put him as #1 or #2, needs to fight someone not as overated as Gatti)

        8.Castillo(Great Wins and Great Losses on resume, some say he beat Mayweather that first time)

        9.Larios(owns his division since forever)

        10.J.M.Marquez(may slip out if he doesnt step up)

        11.Margarito(very impressive fighter nobody wants to fight)O

        12.Judah(beat overated soft punch Spinks but still is a good fighter)

        13.Pacman(May or Maynot be as good as once made out to be,Well see in Morales rematch)

        14.Hatton(Beat a old Tsyzu, but seems to be very talented)

        15.Tarver(Won both recent wrong loss desicions with dominance,also was the man who ruined Roy Jones record)

        16.Taylor(Didnt win Hopkins in majority of real peoples opinion, If he wins the rematch, hes easily in top 10)

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        • elveiel
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          #54
          Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
          You have Hatton above Tszyu and also somehow, Calzaghe made your list? Wow. Worst p4p list of the century. And you have Taylor on there and not Bernard even though about 40% of fans thought Bernard should have got the nod? I agree Taylor won but that's just ******. Anyway, in response to the other guy...

          I put Judah over Corrales because along with accomplishments, I look at it like this. Corrales comes into fights weighing about 147 lbs. Judah weighs about 155 lbs on fight night. If they were the same weight, who would win? In my mind, Judah would KO Corrales. It's very close due to Corrales' win over JLC, but that also was controversial in a way.
          If they were the same weight, every fighter i've mentioned above him would beat Hopkins, he was very good a few years ago but now he's ****ing ****, even ****ty Eastman made him run like a girl and green Taylor beat his ass. GET OVER IT!!

          Joe Calzaghe is the longest running world champion, he's ruled the super middle division with ease and if he fought Bernard Hopkins i think he'd murder him, i think he'd stop him early. He'd also hand Taylor and Tarver their asses on a plate so he should be higher but he hasnt been fighting top class opponent this year.

          Judah's really overated, he may look good to you but he does the same thing over and over again, any decent fight knows exactly what he's going to do next and thats why Tszyu murdered him. Corrales would beat him and thats why i have him higher.

          Hatton beat Tszyu if you dont remember that means he automatically goes higher than him. YOU even have him higher so how can you say thats wrong??

          Get your head from up of America's ass and start watching boxing without bias.
          Last edited by elveiel; 07-23-2005, 05:25 AM.

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          • Kid_Diamond
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            #55
            My list:

            1-Floyd Mayweather
            2-Erik Morales
            3-Ronald Wright
            4-Zab Judah
            5-Marco Antonio Barrera
            6-Jermain Taylor
            7-Bernard Hopkins
            8-Chris Byrd
            9-Diego Corrales
            10-Jean Marc Mormeck

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            • elveiel
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              #56
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              Every poll on here taken since the fight sows the majority of fans thought the right man got the nod, so you need to stop lying or revise that statement now that you know this.

              p4p is difficult, I don't even believe in P4P FULLY, but I'll make a list.

              1) Floyd Mayweather (the best, period...the WAY he beats fighters)

              2) Winky Wright (dominated two former top 10 pfp guys)

              3) Ricky Hatton (convincing win over a top 3 p4p guy gets you top 5 imo)

              4) Jermain Taylor (see comments on Hatton)

              5) Bernard Hopkins (fight was close, can't knock him out of top five just yet)

              6) Marco Barerra (tied with following three due to unusual circumstances of the fights each have had with each other)

              6a) Erik Morales

              6b) Manny Pacquiao

              9) Zab Judah (p4p, if guys like Pac and MAB were as big as Judah, they would beat him)

              10) Diego Corrales (soon to be replaced by Castillo)

              Tarver, Castillo, R Marquez, J Marquez, Karmazin missing out closely
              **** me this is the worst god damn P4P list ever!! Are you joking??

              Who can you have Winky so high for beating two fighters who are well past their prime?? Mosley was good because of his speed which he didnt have when he fought Winky and Tito was good for his speed and power which he didnt have when he fought Winky, Tito didnt even have his legs when he fought Winky!!

              You cant have Hatton and Taylor so high after beating 1 elite fighter?? Especially when Hopkins is a shadow of his former self. They should break into the list but not that high.

              Judah's just on there because he's probably your boy, he got his ass beat down by Tszyu, he only beat Spinks at the second attempt, thats not elite. He's not even the best at welter until he beats Margarito.

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              • simeraksou
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                #57
                Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                Every poll on here taken since the fight sows the majority of fans thought the right man got the nod, so you need to stop lying or revise that statement now that you know this.

                p4p is difficult, I don't even believe in P4P FULLY, but I'll make a list.

                1) Floyd Mayweather (the best, period...the WAY he beats fighters)

                2) Winky Wright (dominated two former top 10 pfp guys)

                3) Ricky Hatton (convincing win over a top 3 p4p guy gets you top 5 imo)

                4) Jermain Taylor (see comments on Hatton)

                5) Bernard Hopkins (fight was close, can't knock him out of top five just yet)

                6) Marco Barerra (tied with following three due to unusual circumstances of the fights each have had with each other)

                6a) Erik Morales

                6b) Manny Pacquiao

                9) Zab Judah (p4p, if guys like Pac and MAB were as big as Judah, they would beat him)

                10) Diego Corrales (soon to be replaced by Castillo)

                Tarver, Castillo, R Marquez, J Marquez, Karmazin missing out closely
                I kind of agree with your #6 positionings.. a lot of people put barrera wayyy above pacman in the rankings even though pacman gave barrera a major thrashing, and fought a close fight with morales

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                • SliqueJab
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                  #58
                  I like what super lightweight p4p list . The only thing is I would not put Judah out there, James Toney should be in there. And Taylor and Hatton should be on the bottom 5 until they proved it again.

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #59
                    Mayweather
                    Wright
                    Morales
                    Hopkins
                    Corrales
                    R Marquez
                    Barrera
                    Hatton
                    Judah
                    Taylor

                    Outskirts

                    Tarver
                    Castillo
                    Pacquiao
                    Toney
                    JM Marquez

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                    • Easy-E
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Kid_Diamond
                      My list:

                      1-Floyd Mayweather
                      2-Erik Morales
                      3-Ronald Wright
                      4-Zab Judah
                      5-Marco Antonio Barrera
                      6-Jermain Taylor
                      7-Bernard Hopkins
                      8-Chris Byrd
                      9-Diego Corrales
                      10-Jean Marc Mormeck

                      whyyyyyyy is morales above barrera?????
                      and why is chris byrd on your list???
                      what is going on here??

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