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  • DiegoFuego
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    #71
    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Winky Wright
    3. Diego Corrales
    4. Jermain Taylor
    5. Ricky Hatton
    6. Bernard Hopkins
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Marco Antonio Barrera
    9. Zab Judah
    10. James Toney

    HUGE shakeup in the rankings this year, don't know if my list is perfected as of yet, but these are all the correct names to have in it at least

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    • spinksjinx
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      #72
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
      1. Floyd Mayweather
      2. Winky Wright
      3. Diego Corrales
      4. Jermain Taylor
      5. Ricky Hatton
      6. Bernard Hopkins
      7. Erik Morales
      8. Marco Antonio Barrera
      9. Zab Judah
      10. James Toney

      HUGE shakeup in the rankings this year, don't know if my list is perfected as of yet, but these are all the correct names to have in it at least

      Putting Taylor above Hatton is insane.

      P4P rankings arent meant for heavyweights either.

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      • elveiel
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        #73
        Originally posted by jose
        Dont get me wrong Winky is a good fighter and in my top 10, but no way does he desever that #2 spot.

        Who think Shane isn't out of his prime? Hell Shane's prime came at 135 10 years ago.

        Both Mosley and Tito have been "shut down" before in there careers he was just the latest in a line to do so.
        I have to agree, i'm definitely not ruling Winky out as one of the best P4P fighters but he'll need to prove a bit more to be considered number 2. Both Mosley and Tito were not only out of their prime but out of their prime weight class, they are good wins but not elite P4P opponents anymore.

        Winky's a class act though, he's all business and if the moneys right he'll take any fight.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #74
          Originally posted by spinksjinx
          Putting Taylor above Hatton is insane.

          P4P rankings arent meant for heavyweights either.
          You don't think James Toney is among the 10 best fighters in the world today? Don't count on me reading anymore of your posts, bud.

          You are, after all, a Cory Spinks fan, so what would you know about boxing? I bet you know a lot about track and cross country though!

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          • Sunshinekid56
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            #75
            1. Floyd Mayweather
            2. Winky Wright
            3. Marco Antonio Barrera
            4. Bernard Hopkins
            5. Diego Corrales
            6. Jose Luis Castillo
            7. Ricky Hatton
            8. Jermain Taylor
            9. Erik Morales
            10.Manny Pacquiao

            I know people are complaining about Winky at #2, but when looking at pure skill I think he's better than the guys below him (even though he might not have the track record of the others).

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #76
              Jermain Taylor just knocked off the number one guy pound for pound in the sport today. You gonna tell me he isn't top 5 pound for pound? When Hatton knocked Tszyu off, Tszyu was in my top 4 pound for pound, so I immediately inserted Hatton into the top 5. When you are UNDEFEATED and beat anybody in the top 5 pound for pound, you jump right in there.

              And Taylor's two biggest wins are much bigger than Hatton's two biggest wins.

              Taylor over Hopkins is bigger than Hatton over Tszyu
              Taylor over Joppy is bigger than Hatton over Phillips

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              • elveiel
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                #77
                Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                Jermain Taylor just knocked off the number one guy pound for pound in the sport today. You gonna tell me he isn't top 5 pound for pound? When Hatton knocked Tszyu off, Tszyu was in my top 4 pound for pound, so I immediately inserted Hatton into the top 5. When you are UNDEFEATED and beat anybody in the top 5 pound for pound, you jump right in there.

                And Taylor's two biggest wins are much bigger than Hatton's two biggest wins.

                Taylor over Hopkins is bigger than Hatton over Tszyu
                Taylor over Joppy is bigger than Hatton over Phillips
                Thats just so wrong, Tsyzu was a live fighter who was ready for war and Hopkins wanted an easy fight. If you had of asked me how highly i rated Hopkins a few years ago i'd have told you i rated him very, very highly but now i dont dont. P4P Tszyu would murder him, infact i wouldnt be suprised if the little guy could beat him anyway.

                Joppys pretty terrible too, he was shot when Taylor fought him and fighters like Magee and Tackie were IMO tougher opponents for Hatton.

                I probably wouldnt argue over my last statement but there's no doubt that Hattons wins over Tszyu was far bigger than Taylors win over Hopkins.

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                • Sunshinekid56
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                  #78
                  I try not to look at one fight so much when doing pound4pound. Because the Taylor/Hopkins fight was very close (I do think Taylor won) I keep Hopkins higher than taylor, because the overall career is more impressive right now. Hatton is above Taylor because of a more impressive win over Tszyu, and I think Hatton lb 4 lb is a more skilled fighter than Taylor.

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                  • spinksjinx
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                    You don't think James Toney is among the 10 best fighters in the world today? Don't count on me reading anymore of your posts, bud.

                    You are, after all, a Cory Spinks fan, so what would you know about boxing? I bet you know a lot about track and cross country though!
                    Know the history on p4p and then come back talking smack. p4p ranking was made for Ray Robinson. Perhaps if Toney still campaigned at cruiserweight you could add him. But now that he is fighting at the heavyweight level he is automatically void in a real p4p list. Toney is one of the best fighters I wont dismiss that, I am simply stating the facts that heavyweights cant be added into the a p4p list.

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                    • Easy-E
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                      #80
                      Best List:
                      [QUOTE=Sunshinekid56]1. Floyd Mayweather
                      2. Winky Wright
                      3. Marco Antonio Barrera
                      4. Bernard Hopkins
                      5. Diego Corrales
                      6. Jose Luis Castillo
                      7. Ricky Hatton
                      8. Jermain Taylor
                      9. Erik Morales
                      10.Manny Pacquiao

                      Id say everyone who needs to be there is there, from 6-10 placement is arguable however

                      Worst List:
                      1.Morales(In my opinion, most imprssive win resume,and 2 losses which were at least close to Bar, but one was a a straight rob against Morales, only 1 real loss)

                      2.Hopkins(i wont completely punish him for loss cause he did outfight Taylor but he still lost)

                      3.Wright(Career is moving up, way up)

                      4.Barrera(When he seems dead, Always comes back and wins another great win)

                      5.R.Marquez(Owns his division)

                      6.Corrales(May move higher in time)

                      7.Mayweather(Beat Castillo and Corrales but no longer fights meaningful fights,Fight a good champ and ill put him as #1 or #2, needs to fight someone not as overated as Gatti)

                      8.Castillo(Great Wins and Great Losses on resume, some say he beat Mayweather that first time)

                      9.Larios(owns his division since forever)

                      10.J.M.Marquez(may slip out if he doesnt step up)

                      11.Margarito(very impressive fighter nobody wants to fight)O

                      12.Judah(beat overated soft punch Spinks but still is a good fighter)

                      13.Pacman(May or Maynot be as good as once made out to be,Well see in Morales rematch)

                      14.Hatton(Beat a old Tsyzu, but seems to be very talented)

                      15.Tarver(Won both recent wrong loss desicions with dominance,also was the man who ruined Roy Jones record)

                      16.Taylor(Didnt win Hopkins in majority of real peoples opinion, If he wins the rematch, hes easily in top 10)



                      I mean, that list is just terrible, talk about bias, morales at 1! Floyd at 7! hatton at 14?! The new heavy weight champ at 16?
                      Thats just foolish

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