compubox stats sheds some light on nard/taylor

[enadeus]

Bernard hopkins never did move up to light heavyweight and held onto the middleweight title all his career. That just proves that he is not p4p best. Look at Mayweather he is already willing to fight Winky!

[urdaddyinAZ]

but a lot of the early rounds Bernard countered and hit Taylor with more affective shots. I dont remember Taylor hitting a Bernard with any good shots except the one that was in the back of the head, and Lampley screamed hes hurt.

You are the exact reason they have 3 different judges, basically you are a Jerry Roth twin. He had the fight 116-112 while people that judge based upon aggressiveness and activity as well as defense and clean punching had the fight 115-113 or a draw.

[urdaddyinAZ]

Bernard hopkins never did move up to light heavyweight and held onto the middleweight title all his career. That just proves that he is not p4p best. Look at Mayweather he is already willing to fight Winky!

I couldn't agree more....he got famous off beating Trinidad and DLH (both much smaller men, Trinidad never had a chance he fed of knocking out fighters his size and walking right through them). Hopkins was great picking a path best for his success, he's a smart businessman. When he refused to fight Roy that's when I knew the guy was a chump. He wanted 50/50 money when he wasn't any draw at all.

[enadeus]

Hopkins might just be the biggest fraud in boxing history. Most people never acknowledged or cared for him untill his Trinidad and De la Hoya fights. I don't know why so many people care for him, or the fight all together. To many people here go with their heart and not their brain.

[Seven]

Yeah, excuse us for having a heart when we pick our favorite fighters. If everyone picked the absolute best boxer we wouldn't have discussions like this and boxing or any sport would be boring because there wouldn't be any confrontation.

[tracylee]

What did you just say..."X is an examination of one's boxing and blah blah blah". Dude yes the guy is a great boxer, but he's boring as **** and has gotten by over the last several years because he fights guys with far less skills and when they are skilled they are naturally smaller dudes. He was inactive for too long Saturday....therefore he lost. Get in the ****ing ring and pound the ****ing kid outta there if your such a stud! He lost, deal with it!

well said daddy..I couldnt agree more!

[SnoopySmurf]

Watching the Hopkins/Taylor as I type.

Rounds 1-4 I've given all to Taylor.

Round 5 I gave to Hopkins easily. Also, the cut occured at this round.

Round 6 was hard to score. Neither fighters started throwing until a minute into teh round when Taylor threw a combo. Lots of posing. 30 seconds left, Taylor throws a flurry when Hopkins is against the rope but took a good left hook in the process. Hopkins wasn't hit in the exchange. 15 seconds to go, Taylor walks into another left jab by Hopkins. 8 seconds left, Taylor throws a flurry but they all land on the hips. Takes another left hook in the process. Hopkins wins that one but Lampley is right by saying that Taylor was more active. I'll give this one to Hopkins

Round 7, Taylor is jabbing but not touching. If he is, Bernard is so far away that when the glove makes contact, Taylor's arm is already pulling back - almost no impact but Lederman thinks it's a good hit. No it's not. Hopkins is now leaning into Taylor and throwing a right lead and connecting. They are both clinching and punching - Hopkins is clearly winning in that affair. Hopkins wins that round. Sorry. But my opinion.

Round 8, Hopkins and taylor exchanging some light taps. Neither willing to commit some weight behind it. 1:54 left in rd 8 and Hopkins "looks" like he connects with a left which makes Taylor slip, Bernard throws a quick right but headbutts him on his jaw, Taylor throws a strong flurry to Bernard's body and backs away. Lots of posing again. 1:05 left, Taylor eats a thudding left hook from Hopkins. Holding and hitting by Hopkins and gets a warning. Neither fighter really connected all that much. The most obvious was that left that Taylor took at 1:05. Hopkins.

Round 9, 2:45 Hopkins connects with a left right and leans and clinches Taylor. 2:30 Taylor connects with a beautiful 7 punch combo to the body and head (blocked though) of Bernard as he is near the corner. 1:50, both jab and connect but Taylor jabbed more. Then Taylor throws a left and overhand right, connecting! 1:22, Taylor and Bernard clinch and punch but Taylor is taking the worst of it. :22 Bernard connects with a hard right counter. Taylor throws some horrific shots but Hopkins leans back with it - IT LOOKS AS IF HE CONNECTED BUT THEY DID NOT! Taylor IMO takes that yet Lederman gives it to Bernard.

Round 10, 2:42, while Lederman is giving his scores, Taylor takes a hard left hand and takes another 1-2 from Hopkins before he's tied up. 1:56 Taylor eats a big right and gets tied up. Taylor is getting pushed and hit and pushed and hit. 1:15 Taylor throws an overhand right and lands on his knees as he misses. :58 left and Taylor gets clocked by a right! Taylor holds on and as they break, Taylor's eyes look a bit glassy. :41 ANOTHER right lead connects by Hopkins! Near the end Taylor connects with his own big right but Hopkins was leaning back and took it well. Bernard.

11th round was a beat down. Taylor looks tired. Looks punch drunk. He's slow to react. Taylor is still throwing combos but is gettig walloped. :40 Taylor connects with a beautiful left right as Bernard is just not throwing! But Bernard HURTS TAYLOR with :30 left! But with :20 left, Bernard does nothing as Taylor is on the defensive! LET IT GO HOPKINS!

12th round : Lots of posing. Taylor misses with a right and Lampley calls it a connect! Even says it's the best right hand of the night. No, Bernard deflected it with his shoulder. 2:05 and Hopking knocks the vaseline off of Taylors head! Crowd roars! 1:45, Taylor stays in teh corner and eats a right punch! How they scored this for Taylor, I DO NOT KNOW. Taylor retaliates with a big right but not sure if he connects as Bernard's back is to the camera and he rolls his torso back with the punch. 1:30 and 1:25 Bernard throw two hard rights and both connect. 1:03 and Taylor takes BIG right hand from Hopkins and another at :59 left! They bounce into the ropes! Lampley says Taylor is wobbly now! Hopkins stands too long and the don't exchange until :05 left. Neither really connects clearly.

I have Hopkins winning. This is my opinion. Don't hate.

[scottydottie]

No Way

There is no way Jermain Taylor will beat B-HOP in rematch unless JT uses some dirty tactics of his own or hits him with one lucky from-way-down town hail mary shot. I mean i was just imagining the second fight in my head and all i can envision is BHOP hitting JT with the same shots he had him stunned with. Sorry JT and you JT NUTHUGGERS, but BHOP isn't done yet. Its still BHOP's era and after JT gets KTFO, then the next one in line can take his place. JT has now tasted what it feels like to be undisputed champ. Now come december or november, BHOP is going to take his belts back and whoop this lil boy's ass.

[Dark Destroyer]

It will be a amazing fight the rematch i'm sure, i really cannot wait

[Stealthic]

Wow, couldn't sense any bias in this thread at all...