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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Man, STFU. I have you're just too ****** to understand. Try to think a little bit outside of the box and maybe you'll see how laughable statements such as "he struggles against good boxers" are. You never will of course because you've rationalized it in your mind with the equally laughable statement that "he's supposed to be a champ in 3-4 divisions." Like that **** means a good boxer is supposed to be a cakewalk . Grow up.
    Your comprehension seems to be lacking. By "good boxers", I meant level wise, not style. Like I said, he struggled with Margarito who is not a technical boxer. He just struggles with good fighters because hes not as good as people make out. Its not simply a blind spot to a particular style. Hes just overrated in general.

    Hopefully you get it this time.

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    • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      Your comprehension seems to be lacking. By "good boxers", I meant level wise, not style. Like I said, he struggled with Margarito who is not a technical boxer. He just struggles with good fighters because hes not as good as people make out. Its not simply a blind spot to a particular style. Hes just overrated in general.

      Hopefully you get it this time.
      No kidding you meant level-wise. Uhh duh! WTF? You get dumber and dumber

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      • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        No kidding you meant level-wise. Uhh duh! WTF? You get dumber and dumber
        Takes a special fighter to be a 3/4 weight champ. Special fighters dont struggle as badly as Williams has with good/decent fighters like Cintron or Quintana.

        Pretty easy to understand. 4/5 pages later and you're still struggling. You'll get there

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        • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
          all I'm triying to say is dzindurek is the second best option for pwill at jwm.

          pwill serg was my favorite fight last year. I had it a draw
          Mine was JMM-Diaz, but Williams-Martinez was a close 2nd.

          That 119-109 scorecard was so insanely horrible it took something away from the fight. **** was so awesomely disrespectful to everyone involved.

          Sergio had Paul numb for the first 3 rounds and was landing some sterile punches they were so clean and it was in pretty much every round. In Germany, they would score those rounds 10-8 if a German boxer did it.

          Sergei is probably the 2nd best choice, but Pirog is closing in on him. And My dude Kirkland is gonna show us what he learned in prison and **** a few before taking that spot. Kid is a beast and IMO will beat P-Will in a FOTY when/if it ever happens.

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          • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Takes a special fighter to be a 3/4 weight champ. Special fighters dont struggle as badly as Williams has with good/decent fighters like Cintron or Quintana.

            Pretty easy to understand. 4/5 pages later and you're still struggling. You'll get there
            You're right, Williams isn't special--YOU are

            Great fighters and good fighters struggle at times with opponents they shouldn't. So please STFU.

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              You're right, Williams isn't special--YOU are

              Great fighters and good fighters struggle at times with opponents they shouldn't. So please STFU.
              "At times" is different from...all the time.

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              • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                "At times" is different from...all the time.
                Ok... and?

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                • Originally posted by Freedom Fighter View Post
                  They turned him down several times, such as last summer and earlier this year.

                  Maybe now Greenburg feels Sergiy at age 34, after only one fight in 18 months, will be past his best, and so an easy win for Williams.

                  He thought Arreola would be too big and strong for Adamek, so he finally let Tomasz on.
                  Bull****. They didn't turn him down at all. Kirkland Sergiy was going to happen on June 27th remember? He was a serious option for Williams too, but Universum threw out a letter that said they'd sue anyone who signed to fight Sergiy was still in his **** with Universum.

                  Also Sergiy showed no signs of rust at 34. 34 is not really an old man's age anymore in boxing. Sergio Martinez is 34 too.

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                  • Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
                    Mine was JMM-Diaz, but Williams-Martinez was a close 2nd.

                    That 119-109 scorecard was so insanely horrible it took something away from the fight. **** was so awesomely disrespectful to everyone involved.

                    Sergio had Paul numb for the first 3 rounds and was landing some sterile punches they were so clean and it was in pretty much every round. In Germany, they would score those rounds 10-8 if a German boxer did it.

                    Sergei is probably the 2nd best choice, but Pirog is closing in on him. And My dude Kirkland is gonna show us what he learned in prison and **** a few before taking that spot. Kid is a beast and IMO will beat P-Will in a FOTY when/if it ever happens.
                    but Sergio didn't get a point for the first rd. Without that kd, I had Sergio winning. Pwill looked very solid in the mid and early late (if that makes sense).

                    I picked dzinzurek as the second best jmw fght for Sergio. The best mw fight for him after pwill is pirog, who I think has good size and versatility (fighting ortho and southpaw for example) which will test maravella. I think pirgo is ready now, he's a seasoned 30 even if jacobs was overrated.

                    I want to see Kirkland fight again but he was one of my favorite fighters to watch at 154. He smushes angulo or cotto's face in but I really want to see him in with one of the lefties.

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                    • I would rather see him fight Martinez, I think Williams outwork Dzinziruk EASY for 12 Rounds, Dzinziruk is a good fighter don't get me wrong but at times he doesn't throw enough, he just bounces around with his guard up and flicks his jab then open up every now and then and throws a nice Combo when he sees a opening but a lot of times he doesn't do it enough, you are going to beat Williams on the card if you are not active enough (Example: Margarito vs Williams)

                      even though I think Williams beats Martinez a second time around I still think it would be yet another entertaining fight

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