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  • #41
    Originally posted by spoonwars View Post
    Marquez also gave Pac an edge in power, as interpreted through Eric Gomez.
    wow basically Marquez is saying even at 130lbs Pacquiao has more power than Floyd at 146. That's quite a compliment for the Pacman, even though Marquez hates him.

    Now imagine Pacman's power at 147.
    Last edited by Blubba; 08-05-2010, 03:50 PM.

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    • #42
      JMM was right about his thoughts...

      ..Pac is definitely quicker than Jr but Jr has the best defensive skills that I have ever seen and JMM knows this first hand. You can compare these two fighters to the Lakers run and gun game against the Pistons tough defensive game back in the 80's. The fight can go either way.
      But because it is boxing, confrontation can be avoided unlike in basketball, two of the best teams are destined to collided.
      It will be great for boxing if these two fighters meet in the ring. Jr has all the antidotes to Pac's infestations and vice versa. There are only two outcome if they meet in the ring, Jr by UD or Pac by TKO.
      The only reason why this fight is not happening right now has something to do with the handlers and the promoters. Both promoters doesn't appreciate what these two fighters has done to boxing. They are more destructive rather than be constructive.
      I would love to see JMM/Pac 3 but JMM needs to join Arum to get his revenge. The rift between Arum/GBP stands between them.

      Originally posted by fabie View Post
      Anyone's thought on Marquez's reading of both Mayweather and Pacquiao?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Blubba View Post
        wow basically Marquez is saying even at 130lbs Pacquiao has more power than Floyd at 146. That's quite a compliment for the Pacman, even though Marquez hates him.

        Now imagine Pacman's power at 147.
        I dont think marquez hates pacman. He just wants to fight him again although it doesnt seem to be the best thing for Marquez to do at this stage in his career. I do think thought that Floyd beats pactman by UD. Floyd would not engage pacman just box him. At 147 no advantages Floyd rules.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
          Excuses, excuses. Marquez got tired of getting popped all night. Those punches were cat quick coming from Floyd. As a former fighter myself I can tell you right now Manny gets predictable in there but Floyd never does. Manny get's very sloppy as the fight progresses even though he's still quick he's not accurate quick and the accurate quick, properly timed punches will get there first every time. Manny tends to leap in with his shots, he leaps quick but Marquez was able to time those leaps and Manny's movement as the fight progressed but he never was able to time Floyd so I say again Floyd is not 41-0 for no reason. Dude is fast, accurate and a very gifted punch selector. If he ever get's in there with Manny you will see the difference immediately. Floyd will chew his ass up and spit him out quite easily. If Arum and Team Pac are reluctant to face m\Marquez do you idiots really think he wants to get in there with Floyd.
          Wow, may i suggest you something? (whisper) please tell your boy, floyd to stop ducking pacquaio and fight him. Let him prove that 41-0 is not a fluke. is that okay with you? Thank you.. :P

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
            Doesn't make sense for Marquez to say Manny is faster than Floyd because he was able to time Manny but unable to get anywhere near Floyd. He could see Manny's punches coming but couldn't see Floyd's. Defense has nothing to do with seeing a fighters offense and timing it. Manny may be as explosive but Floyd maintains his speed throughout while Manny tends to get sloppy and slower as the fight goes on.
            Manny is a short offensive fighter with an average defense,that's why Marquez was able to time Manny but not the taller and defensive Mayweather.

            I really think Manny is faster than Floyd,he has also a lot more power,Manny at 130 was more able to hurt Marquez tough chin, than Floyd at 147 (Manny broke Marquez nose and dropped him 3 times).
            I'm not even talkin about the Manny who dropped Cotto(who Shane wasn't able to hurt).
            Mayweather knows he will face crazy fast guns+ a southpaw stance wich break his shoulder roll.
            I think the Mayweathers don't want to hear about southpaws...
            They and we all know,only southpaws or fast guys have hurt Floyd (Judah,Corley,Mosley).
            Manny can hurt Floyd bad,he's the only guy who can stop him,but,but,by decision I have Mayweather.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
              Only ignorant historians because true fans will look at the condition of the fighters Manny was facing and when he faced them. It doesn't stack up next to even a Donald Curry or a Camacho or Rosario let lone any of the true greats. These guys went after unbeaten fighters or the other champions, anyone that threatened their throne while Manny's career is full of hype, greed, deception and a bunch of cleverly picked fighters well pass their primes. Most coming off vicious KO losses. History aint ******.
              trooooooooollllll

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                Anybody can read and research before making ignorant comments too. If you got off yourself for a minute you would read the facts. Floyd fought
                • Corrales @ 130
                • Castillo @135
                • Gatti and Corley @ 140
                • Zab, Baldo, Hatton and Shane @ 147
                • Oscar @154


                Those were the top fighters at their divisions at that time. All were champions that won their titles in the ring. Floyd tried fighting Shane@35, Cotto and Hatton@40 and Shane again@47 then Cheato, Cotto and Pacroid@47 but the politics or their camps on record saying their fighters weren't ready at the time stopped those fights from happening. Manny completely bypassed the guy that beat Morales for a 3rd Morales fight, over stepped the whole light-wt and jr-welter-wt divisions then went on a damaged goods tour that he's still on. Get your weight up son.
                ;you can post all this that u saying,fact is he didn't fight the guys i mentioned for whatever reason,i never thought hatton was any good,plus he fought him at welter,hatton is not a welter,gatti and corley?? please,oscar was good ten years earlier when he was in his 20's,a jr welter,welter,not when he faced floyd

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                • #48
                  Marquez fought Pacman in a Featherweight & jr Lightweight, thats comfortable to Marquez; Marquez was bloated to welterweight when he fought prettyBOY! Marquez wasn't comfortable with the additional weight, he was slow hence, he lost to prettyBOY who was 2lbs overweight with the required 147lbs.That Catchweight was favorable to prettyBOY; had they fought in 135lbs Catchweight, the result might be different.

                  Marquez territory is in the LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION.

                  Marquez should fight any jr Welterweight champs, and then, a Welterweight Champs.

                  Fighting a Lightweight contender, and hurl a challenge against a Welterweight Champ does not sound good enough!

                  He should prove himself, by beating taller and heavier opponenets in Jr Welterweight and Welterweight division.

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                  • #49
                    what a load of crap

                    after all those great fights atleadt give marquez a fair chance have him face khan in the us heck do it in staples center marquez is the bigger name or what is gbp going to sacrifice marquez in the uk

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                      Anybody can read and research before making ignorant comments too. If you got off yourself for a minute you would read the facts. Floyd fought
                      • Corrales @ 130
                      • Castillo @135
                      • Gatti and Corley @ 140
                      • Zab, Baldo, Hatton and Shane @ 147
                      • Oscar @154


                      Those were the top fighters at their divisions at that time. All were champions that won their titles in the ring. Floyd tried fighting Shane@35, Cotto and Hatton@40 and Shane again@47 then Cheato, Cotto and Pacroid@47 but the politics or their camps on record saying their fighters weren't ready at the time stopped those fights from happening. Manny completely bypassed the guy that beat Morales for a 3rd Morales fight, over stepped the whole light-wt and jr-welter-wt divisions then went on a damaged goods tour that he's still on. Get your weight up son.

                      Top fighters? Are you on drugs?

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