jmm ducked too?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I doubt it, he was just an unproven prospect with a good record.

negative,

he was the wbc lightweight champion promoted by top rank. there was talk about khan vs valero then pitalua & demarco happened. he even headlined a independent ppv card by golden boy.

savannah was asked about valero & said we are taking juan diaz in a different direction.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Why do you think most Americans are so ******? All their food is chalked full of chemicals and hardcore synthetics and industrial waste.

They're chemically lobotomized zombies.

Like *****'s.

im pretty sure a lot of *****s eat a lot of chicken. so it makes sense.

[Spray_resistant]

negative,

he was the wbc lightweight champion promoted by top rank. there was talk about khan vs valero then pitalua & demarco happened. he even headlined a independent ppv card by golden boy.

savannah was asked about valero & said we are taking juan diaz in a different direction.

The belts do not really mean much, its more about opponents and he had beaten maybe 1 world class fighter, 2 contenders, and the rest just local journeyman.

Maybe he could have been something who knows but I never saw anything in him for any world class fighters especially one like JMM to be concerned about.

[led]

I don't know what to do now..

Defend JMM? Or defend Valero?

just do. no harm in trying. ill support you all the way.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

The belts do not really mean much, its more about opponents and he had beaten maybe 1 world class fighter, 2 contenders, and the rest just local journeyman.

Maybe he could have been something who knows but I never saw anything in him for any world class fighters especially one like JMM to be concerned about.

marquez almost got dropped by light hitting, unathletic, plodding, & physically inferior juan diaz. what wouldve happened if marquez got in the ring vs valero? did you see marquez face after the fight this past saturday?

if wild reckless one handed green pacquiao dropped absolute prime marquez, what woudl have happened vs valero who was much developed than pacquiao at that stage?


it ****ing hurts just thinking of what might have been boxing wise for valero.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

marquez almost got dropped by light hitting, unathletic, plodding, & physically inferior juan diaz. what wouldve happened if marquez got in the ring vs valero? did you see marquez face after the fight this past saturday?

if wild reckless one handed green pacquiao dropped absolute prime marquez, what woudl have happened vs valero who was much developed than pacquiao at that stage?


it ****ing hurts just thinking of what might have been boxing wise for valero.

It also hurts just looking at how some people are overrating him in death.

[Spray_resistant]

marquez almost got dropped by light hitting, unathletic, plodding, & physically inferior juan diaz. what wouldve happened if marquez got in the ring vs valero? did you see marquez face after the fight this past saturday?

if wild reckless one handed green pacquiao dropped absolute prime marquez, what woudl have happened vs valero who was much developed than pacquiao at that stage?


it ****ing hurts just thinking of what might have been boxing wise for valero.

That is where we have derailed, he was in development but still very crude, and even though he looked the best he ever had in his last fight it still wasn't on the level needed to beat JMM. I think he would have been eating counters all night from JMM, and he would have had a punchers chance yes but nothing more.

This isn't club fighters in south America we are talking about here, he wouldn't have been able to maintain that ko% once he stepped up in comp against world class fighters.

[xcaret v3]

he priced himself out of a hamed fight and a morales fight.

they offered him little money, get it right for christ sakes

[yeks]

they offered him little money, get it right for christ sakes

he asked for a chunk of money greater than morales' guaranteed purse.. how is that not overpricing?

[led]

they offered him little money, get it right for christ sakes

do you have links to this?