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  • spoonwars
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    #21
    Originally posted by Makalebron
    jmm vs diaz was a crap matchmaking
    as long as golden boy and his banker count the money on the outside, without being punched in the face, they don't give a hoot... paraphrasing his "i care for fighters so i'm promoting them now" bs

    and they "stacked" that undercard to hopefully give marquez more ppv buys, or a bargaining chip against khan or pac or other big name
    Last edited by spoonwars; 08-01-2010, 05:17 AM.

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    • Walterson
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
      What do GREATS DO?? They beat and fight whoever gets put in front of them no matter what style.

      I rather praise Golden Boy for CHALLENGING their fighters than CHERRY PICKING by Top Rank.

      You people need to make up your minds. You want boxers to be challenged yes or no in order to prove that they have it??
      this ^^^^^^^^^

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        #23
        This thread starter is ****** lmao haha

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          #24
          Originally posted by paulf
          Jacobs was undefeated with 20 fights, and was fighting for a world title. It was time for him to step up. He'd already headline a BAD card right?

          Winning world titles isnt supposed to be a matter of easy matchmaking.
          This ^^^^^^^

          Let me add that Andre Ward / Andre Dirrell have fought about this number of times and look at the guys they've been put up against in the Super Six

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          • Khalid X
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            #25
            I fell asleep before I could elaborate on my point so I will address what I meant as well as respond to a few replies


            Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
            What do GREATS DO?? They beat and fight whoever gets put in front of them no matter what style.

            I rather praise Golden Boy for CHALLENGING their fighters than CHERRY PICKING by Top Rank.

            You people need to make up your minds. You want boxers to be challenged yes or no in order to prove that they have it??
            Yes but I also feel a fighter should be prepared before facing certain guys. No one on Jacobs resume was even close to pirog's style. I feel a match maker should prepare you for different style early on in your career before you step up in competition like this.

            Originally posted by Benavidez Mafia
            GBP puts you in a position to make a very good payday and be successful in the sport.

            Styles make fights and Jacobs should've done a better job than he did tonight. His own team should've stepped up and said something if they didn't want the fight.

            Don't blame the promoter and match maker when the fighter doesn't get the job done.

            GBP is willing to take risk with their young fighters hoping to get a reward with them, if they win by being a bigger name in the sport. GBP could've done some good things with Jacobs if he had won tonight and became the champ.
            Jacobs is clearly not ready for world class competition.



            Originally posted by WAR ENGLAND
            LOL Golden Boy can't win...

            Either they are protecting to much or when there prospect takes a step up and loses they are terrible matchmakers..
            I never said they were protecting any guy too much or anything of that nature. I'm referring to properly building a guy up on the way to fights like this.


            Originally posted by paulf
            Jacobs was undefeated with 20 fights, and was fighting for a world title. It was time for him to step up. He'd already headline a BAD card right?

            Winning world titles isnt supposed to be a matter of easy matchmaking.
            I agree. Who on his resume would have prepared him for a fight like this? This is the point I was trying to make in my original post
            Last edited by Khalid X; 08-01-2010, 06:58 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Walterson
              This ^^^^^^^

              Let me add that Andre Ward / Andre Dirrell have fought about this number of times and look at the guys they've been put up against in the Super Six
              Yeah absolutely!!

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              • AddiX
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                #27
                Jacobs was at his cross road. Every young hit fighter hits it and they need to be challenged.

                Losing really isnt a big deal for him. He's young and losing can help his career a lot if he uses it to learn.

                GBP had to find out what they had in Jacobs anyway. The tougher his opponents, the less impressive he has looked. They needed to push him.

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                • Khalid X
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                  #28
                  Also to add a few examples

                  Floyd's team felt he had issues with southpaws early on in his career. Now they didn't completely duck those guys, rather Roger and those handling his career built him up to the point to where facing a southpaw would be a non issue.. He faced a craftly, yet very beatable guy in Corley, then a guy like Sharmba Mitchell and later went on to dominate a world class souhtpaw (at the time) in Zab Judah. This is the way building a guy up for a certain style should be done.

                  Floyd was presented with an opportunity to face an elite southpaw a long time ago in Stevie Johnston, early on in his career, but his team felt he wasn't ready at that time. That wasn't a duck but a smart move in building a guy up to face that type of style on a world class level (instead of just randomly throwing him in their with just anyone).

                  Even though most mock tyson, his team knew that taller fighters would give him the most issues, which is why even though some of those guys were bums they still had little things in their game to give him a certain looks. This is why I posted what I did. Guys like Jacobs and other prospects aren't being brought up proper and will continue to get exposed until people do a better job of matching them with guys that will help prepare them for world class fighters like this.

                  Demetrius Andrade is also a perfect example because he is facing guys that don't do anything for him career wise. So when he finally steps up, he will get exposed just as well. While he is an extreme case and Jacobs career hasn't been handle as bad as his, he perfectly represent the poor matching and building of fighters in boxing today.
                  Last edited by Khalid X; 08-01-2010, 06:57 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by AddiX
                    Jacobs was at his cross road. Every young hit fighter hits it and they need to be challenged.

                    Losing really isnt a big deal for him. He's young and losing can help his career a lot if he uses it to learn.

                    GBP had to find out what they had in Jacobs anyway. The tougher his opponents, the less impressive he has looked. They needed to push him.
                    I agree with what you are saying but why have a step up against a style you are not even prepared for? I mean I saw a look of confusion on Jacobs face in the very beginning of this fight. I have been watching young fighters for a long time and I follow a lot of these guys as amateurs. It seems Promoters are terrible now n days at building guys up, and this is why all of these young guys will continue to get exposed.
                    Last edited by Khalid X; 08-01-2010, 06:14 AM.

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                    • black.ink
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                      #30
                      Nobody was calling Pirog a world beater before the fight, and many were predicting the American would come out on top. Just because the fight played out differently then what the majority was expecting, you can't blame match-making.

                      An undefeated record means shit in boxing if you are not gonna face the best out there. I have much more respect for a losing fighter who takes chances in their careers, rather then an undefeated one taking an easy route to the top.

                      I hate it when a fighter get's ****ted on after a defeat against a relatively unknown opponent, especially when the opposing fighter goes on to have a good career himself. The Ortiz/Maidana fight comes to mind.

                      Pirog may be untested at world level, but it's not like Jacobs lost to a journyman. Both men will likely go places, it was just that Pirog was more ready to shine and his time has come sooner.

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