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  • Originally posted by WESS View Post
    Well Pac did beat him. The question was silly really because theirs really not an answer other than JMM.
    marco antonio barerra has no technical skills?

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    • Why the hell is Pacquiao in this thread.


      Well, it seems the trouble is that Mayweather is holding the payment due to the conditions of the building. If Mayweather is truly having financial problem again, then he will fight again this year.

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      • Originally posted by Buck Nasty View Post
        marco antonio barerra has no technical skills?
        I didn't say that or mean it that way. It was meant as JMM was the last fighter he faced. MAB had just been beaten by JMM who Pac faced and went to war with.

        But since beating MAB and JMM we haven't seen him fight anyone with these skills. Especially now that he's P4P king. When did Pac and Arum team up?

        Anyway as a fan I want to see these kinds of fights now that he's P4P king. People have bashed Floyd so why cant we expect the same from Pac now that he's P4P? As I have said Cotto was legit BUT it still has a cloud as Freddie said they wanted advantages. Would a pound or two changed the outcome? No....

        Point is, let's see a fight with no catchweights vs a real threat. Not a tailor made, made to look good fight... that's all I'm asking... These "filler" fights I just don't buy that the media is trying to sell.

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        • Originally posted by Tweezy316 View Post
          If you compare it to Mayeather vs de la hoya it hardly was.
          There are at least two kinds of events,,, one that is sickening and one that is electrifying !!

          Pac vs ODH was electrifying

          May vs ODH was sickening, didn't measure up to the hype, turned out to be less than a sparing match and ROBBED all the fans of their money and the time to watch it.

          May said he would destroy ODH, what simpleminded joke.

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          • Originally posted by WESS View Post
            I didn't say that or mean it that way. It was meant as JMM was the last fighter he faced. MAB had just been beaten by JMM who Pac faced and went to war with.

            But since beating MAB and JMM we haven't seen him fight anyone with these skills. Especially now that he's P4P king. When did Pac and Arum team up?

            Anyway as a fan I want to see these kinds of fights now that he's P4P king. People have bashed Floyd so why cant we expect the same from Pac now that he's P4P? As I have said Cotto was legit BUT it still has a cloud as Freddie said they wanted advantages. Would a pound or two changed the outcome? No....

            Point is, let's see a fight with no catchweights vs a real threat. Not a tailor made, made to look good fight... that's all I'm asking... These "filler" fights I just don't buy that the media is trying to sell.

            ever since he became p4p king he has moved up & faced big challengers in exciting fights that put boxing in the forefront. all successful ppvs as well.

            the margarito fight is crap but at least it will be exciting while it last.


            that fight wouldnt have taken place had floyd accepted the 14 day cutoff & 5050 split instead of going on another semi retirement vacation.

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            • Originally posted by WESS View Post
              Well Pac did beat him. The question was silly really because theirs really not an answer other than JMM.
              Sure, it's in the book..... but we are boxing fans, and we saw the fight(s).

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              • Originally posted by Buck Nasty View Post
                ever since he became p4p king he has moved up & faced big challengers in exciting fights that put boxing in the forefront. all successful ppvs as well.
                Come on, ever since Manny beat shrink-wrapped Hoya, he has taken 4x Top Rank money-fights..... and yes, I have included Hatton in that list, for obvious reasons.

                The Clottey sparring session was a joke, and now we get Margarito

                Originally posted by Buck Nasty View Post
                that fight wouldnt have taken place had floyd accepted the 14 day cutoff & 5050 split instead of going on another semi retirement vacation.
                What? We would have seen the fight already if Manny had agreed to the same terms back in January, that he so desperately wants now.

                They are both acting like Prima Donna's, but be honest about the situation.

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                • Originally posted by Buck Nasty View Post
                  ever since he became p4p king he has moved up & faced big challengers in exciting fights that put boxing in the forefront. all successful ppvs as well.

                  the margarito fight is crap but at least it will be exciting while it last.


                  that fight wouldn't have taken place had floyd accepted the 14 day cutoff & 5050 split instead of going on another semi retirement vacation.
                  Not according to Freddie Roach. He tells it like it is and if its not to his liking he doesn't accept the fight. Reason we had Hoya at 147 (and not Mosley), Hatton at 140, Cotto at 145, then CLottey back at 147. Now Margarito at 150. That's not bigger challenges..

                  "Oscar is no Mosley" (especially when he couldn't even make 147 even with IV's in his arm)

                  Hatton was already exposed and (as you said with Mayweather) wasn't favored by ANY means to beat Pac. Not only that, Mayweather beat a younger undefeated HUNGRY Hatton who still had his original TEAM that got him where he was. You know your messed up when you go to the Mayweather's for help......

                  Cotto (I picked to win a SD), has a cloud over the fight because Pac fought both Hoya and Clottey at 147 but not Cotto for his 147 title? That doesn't make sense now does it??????? If Floyd did this wouldn't people be bashing him? Wait..........

                  Clottey who Roach said would be no threat. Everyone knew going into the fight Clottey wouldn't win a single round. Now if Pac had KO'ed him I would speak a little different about the fight.... Just a little

                  Now Margarito at 150? lol As you sad. Its crap. We can thank Bob

                  Why couldn't/can;t we see Berto at 147, Mosley at 147, Bradley at 147, Alexander at 140-147, Sergio Martinez at 147-154 or hell even 150 if he accepts, PWILL at 147-154 or even 150...

                  Roach explains it like it is and as he stats he wants the advantages. He knew, Oscar was no Shane. At one point Roach stated Pac isnt ready for a fighter like Mayweather and that he hopes Pac sees what he sees. Roach knows exactly how the fight will be.

                  He has stated Pac wont throw as much and be as active as you think he would be due to Mayweather's precise counter punching abilities. He also said the fight would be so boring that the Clottey fight would be more exciting. Roach knows Pac will have a HELLL of a time vs Mayweather let a lone someone with technical skills that doesn't just throw punches wildly and go toe to toe.

                  I know Roach doesn't like the Mayweathers, more so Sr. I know he speaks out of hate but watch old videos of him talking about Floyd. Hell listen to Arum speak about Floyd back when he promoted him. They both spoke highly of him and they BOTH know how big of a threat he is.

                  now i'm just going ion and on....

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                  • Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    Not according to Freddie Roach. He tells it like it is and if its not to his liking he doesn't accept the fight. Reason we had Hoya at 147 (and not Mosley), Hatton at 140, Cotto at 145, then CLottey back at 147. Now Margarito at 150. That's not bigger challenges..

                    "Oscar is no Mosley" (especially when he couldn't even make 147 even with IV's in his arm)

                    Hatton was already exposed and (as you said with Mayweather) wasn't favored by ANY means to beat Pac. Not only that, Mayweather beat a younger undefeated HUNGRY Hatton who still had his original TEAM that got him where he was. You know your messed up when you go to the Mayweather's for help......

                    Cotto (I picked to win a SD), has a cloud over the fight because Pac fought both Hoya and Clottey at 147 but not Cotto for his 147 title? That doesn't make sense now does it??????? If Floyd did this wouldn't people be bashing him? Wait..........

                    Clottey who Roach said would be no threat. Everyone knew going into the fight Clottey wouldn't win a single round. Now if Pac had KO'ed him I would speak a little different about the fight.... Just a little

                    Now Margarito at 150? lol As you sad. Its crap. We can thank Bob

                    Why couldn't/can;t we see Berto at 147, Mosley at 147, Bradley at 147, Alexander at 140-147, Sergio Martinez at 147-154 or hell even 150 if he accepts, PWILL at 147-154 or even 150...

                    Roach explains it like it is and as he stats he wants the advantages. He knew, Oscar was no Shane. At one point Roach stated Pac isnt ready for a fighter like Mayweather and that he hopes Pac sees what he sees. Roach knows exactly how the fight will be.

                    He has stated Pac wont throw as much and be as active as you think he would be due to Mayweather's precise counter punching abilities. He also said the fight would be so boring that the Clottey fight would be more exciting. Roach knows Pac will have a HELLL of a time vs Mayweather let a lone someone with technical skills that doesn't just throw punches wildly and go toe to toe.

                    I know Roach doesn't like the Mayweathers, more so Sr. I know he speaks out of hate but watch old videos of him talking about Floyd. Hell listen to Arum speak about Floyd back when he promoted him. They both spoke highly of him and they BOTH know how big of a threat he is.

                    now i'm just going ion and on....
                    That is true. Just go to youtube type in mayweather vs judah 2 and arum says that Mayweather is better than Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, and Roberto Duran. Yup that came out of Arum's mouth. While he was promoting Floyd of course. It kinda makes you wonder what Arum would say about Pacquiao if Pac ever left him LOL.

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                    • Don't know how much money Floyd has but people have been
                      saying he's broke for some years now but he still spends money.
                      I will admit though that Floyd does spend crazily and money can
                      go fast. MC Hammer, Mike Tyson, Red Foxx (RIP), Isaac Hayes (RIP).
                      If Floyd is broke then I wish I was broke too (Sarcastic).

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