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List: Which of Manny Pacquiao's Opponents Were In Their Prime?
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Originally posted by WAR ENGLAND View PostHis confidence was shattered not just by losing but losing by KO, if the ref had not gotten involved he would not have just been hurt but possibly stopped as well. The guys defense was always a little suspect and he had taken some punishment, Hatton vs Kosta would still lose to Pac but not in such a manner in my view..
even collazo tagged him and hurt him.
hatton would have done better if manny was orthodox.
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Originally posted by PAC&PBFsuck View PostCollazo was robbed against him, let's not forget the fight where the ref let him tie his shoes after a knock down, after kosta it was downhill for Ricky.
ehhh..... downhill for ricky?
same ricky.
ricky never changed.
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Originally posted by PAC&PBFsuck View PostCollazo was robbed against him, let's not forget the fight where the ref let him tie his shoes after a knock down, after kosta it was downhill for Ricky.
Maussa, Castillo, Urango, Collazo.
His only blemish was a loss to the No.1 P4P Mayweather.
If Collazo was robbed and therefore Hatton was no longer prime than I guess Pacquiao was no longer prime post-Marquez? No?
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Originally posted by WAR ENGLAND View PostIt's about the same apart from Cotto/Hatton bit
Hatton was at his best vs Kosta.. not after coming from a Knockout and being badly shaken by Lazcano.
Cotto was prime around the time he fought Mosley not after he got battered into submission by Margaritto and went live and death with Clottey.
Btw im not saying they aren't good wins (the Cotto one is really great) but they certainly were past prime in my view.
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Lehlohonolo Ledwaba - PRIME
Marco Antonio Barrera 1 - PRIME
Marco Antonio Barrera 2 - PAST PRIME
Juan Manuel Marquez 1 - PRIME
Juan Manuel Marquez 2 - PRIME
Erik Morales 1 - PAST PRIME
Erik Morales 2 - PAST PRIME / DRAGGED DOWN IN WEIGHT
Erik Morales 3 - SHOT
Oscar Larios - PAST PRIME / DRAGGED UP IN WEIGHT
Jorge Solis - PRIME
David Diaz - PRIME
Oscar De La Hoya - SHOT / DRAGGED DOWN IN WEIGHT
Ricky Hatton - PAST PRIME
Miguel Cotto - NEAR PRIME
My slightly altered take on it. You have to acknowledge, though, that some of these fighters even past prime are better than most fighters in their prime. When people criticise Pac's win over Cotto, or Mayweather's win over Mosley for that matter, saying they were past prime or whatever it just makes me scratch my head. Sure, they weren't at their very best, but they still provide bigger tests than say a prime Berto or someone.
Also, is it racist that I find Ledwaba's first name hilarious?
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Originally posted by S.G. View PostLehlohonolo Ledwaba - PRIME
Marco Antonio Barrera 1 - PRIME
Marco Antonio Barrera 2 - PAST PRIME
Juan Manuel Marquez 1 - PRIME
Juan Manuel Marquez 2 - PRIME
Erik Morales 1 - PAST PRIME
Erik Morales 2 - PAST PRIME / DRAGGED DOWN IN WEIGHT
Erik Morales 3 - SHOT
Oscar Larios - PAST PRIME / DRAGGED UP IN WEIGHT
Jorge Solis - PRIME
David Diaz - PRIME
Oscar De La Hoya - SHOT / DRAGGED DOWN IN WEIGHT
Ricky Hatton - PAST PRIME
Miguel Cotto - NEAR PRIME
My slightly altered take on it. You have to acknowledge, though, that some of these fighters even past prime are better than most fighters in their prime. When people criticise Pac's win over Cotto, or Mayweather's win over Mosley for that matter, saying they were past prime or whatever it just makes me scratch my head. Sure, they weren't at their very best, but they still provide bigger tests than say a prime Berto or someone.
Also, is it racist that I find Ledwaba's first name hilarious?
Good points though, although many believe Cotto wasn't the same fighter when Pacquiao fought him, there were really only a couple more better fighters at Weltweight that Manny could've fought.
Same goes with Mosley. IMO, he was post-prime but still the No.1 Welterweight when Mayweather defeated him.
yeah mate, that is one funny ass name.
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Lehlohonolo Ledwaba - PRIME
Marco Antonio Barrera 1 - PRIME
Marco Antonio Barrera 2 - PAST PRIME
Juan Manuel Marquez 1 - PRIME
Juan Manuel Marquez 2 - PRIME
Erik Morales 1 - PAST PRIME- WORTH NOTING PAC WAS NO WAY NEAR PRIME
Erik Morales 2 - PAST PRIME- SAME AS ABOVE
Erik Morales 3 - SHOT
Oscar Larios - NEAR PRIME
Jorge Solis - PRIME
David Diaz - PRIME
Oscar De La Hoya - SHOT
Ricky Hatton - PRIME
Miguel Cotto - PRIME - he even said before and after he was in his best physical condition
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