Over time it seems drug users...

[SplitSecond]

I might be a bit pessimistic, but I would think most fighters cheat to get the edge.

Why do you think DLH didn't come down harder on SSM when it was evident that he cheated? If you yourself had lost a close match in any sport and you found out your opponent cheated you of a win what would YOU do? Wouldn't you point fingers and tell everybody that you really should have won?

Well Oscar didn't do a thing. He let bygones be bygones. Do you think it's because he's indifferent towards his legacy?

...or maybe... just maybe... he was cheating himself.


Etc....

i would'nt really care, cuz steroids are over-rated

[Walterson]

I think you're right but I also think that's primarily because most of those guys were caught/suspected prior to the PED explosion. I think the attitude has changed today - primarily because once you're caught, the lack of PEDs shows in your performance afterward. Boxing's good at sweeping things under the rug so until the testing changes, the indifference won't.

Hmmm... good point.

It's a touchy question this next one...

But taking into account your comment does it kind of justify Mayweather's stance towards Pacquaio?

[Walterson]

This pretty much shows you that boxing fans will always remember fighters that delivered 'exciting fights' and it doesn't matter how they are outside of the ring, it's about their performance inside the ring

very true, are you a fan of these guys?

[Walterson]

Also, good to see that the majority of comments here are straight-foward and intellectual... no BS!!

[IMDAZED]

Hmmm... good point.

It's a touchy question this next one...

But taking into account your comment does it kind of justify Mayweather's stance towards Pacquaio?

I think it justifies anyone's stance, not just Floyd's. He's not the first to ask for it. Let's face it, a lot of these guys are on the juice. We just don't want to know because there'd be a lot of broken hearts. Look how easy boxing makes it for them. If all of these STARS (Jones, Vargas, Toney, etc) are getting caught with this raggedy-ass testing, imagine if they stepped it up a notch? Does anyone really believe these guys only used once (Toney twice)?

[Walterson]

I think it justifies anyone's stance, not just Floyd's. He's not the first to ask for it. Let's face it, a lot of these guys are on the juice. We just don't want to know because there'd be a lot of broken hearts. Look how easy boxing makes it for them. If all of these STARS (Jones, Vargas, Toney, etc) are getting caught with this raggedy-ass testing, imagine if they stepped it up a notch? Does anyone really believe these guys only used once (Toney twice)?

I have a 'strong' feeling they all took it more than once

It's like the phrase, I think it goes... once you go black, you don't go back.

or once you pop, you just can't stop

[IMDAZED]

I have a 'strong' feeling they all took it more than once

It's like the phrase, I think it goes... once you go black, you don't go back.

or once you pop, you just can't stop

Basically. Some of these guys are very obvious. Very obvious. I snicker every time I see a Juan Urango, Jameel McCline or...ehh, **** it. Lemme shut up.

[Walterson]

Basically. Some of these guys are very obvious. Very obvious. I snicker every time I see a Juan Urango, Jameel McCline or...ehh, **** it. Lemme shut up.

It's ridiculous, and throws fairness right out the window. Money talks eh, and it seems many boxers are getting away with illegal activity by it.

Call me biased but it makes me question Pacquaio somewhat more. What's your grounds of the Mayweather Jr / Pacquaio drug testing issue?

[Mayabang]

very true, are you a fan of these guys?

Big fan of Roy Jones actually and to his credit he always put on a show. That's why his career is a highlight reel.

[IMDAZED]

It's ridiculous, and throws fairness right out the window. Money talks eh, and it seems many boxers are getting away with illegal activity by it.

Call me biased but it makes me question Pacquaio somewhat more. What's your grounds of the Mayweather Jr / Pacquaio drug testing issue?

I think everyone knows my stance . Manny Pacquiao is a juicer. And I don't give a **** what anyone thinks. I first heard the rumor long before Floyd Sr said anything. But again, common sense prevails. Who else besides a juicer would even care when he would be tested?