Over time it seems drug users...

[Walterson]

B2K - Bump Bump Bump

[Vadrigar.]

Majority of the people with ignore this thread man. Double standards everywhere here. Talk **** about "cheater" this and "cheater" that but yet have AVs of cheaters themselves.

"cheater" this and "cheater" that...........

Yeah, just remember Margarito.

[Walterson]

"cheater" this "cheater" that...........

Yeah, just remember Margarito.

The gif. man strikes again!

[IMDAZED]

I might be a bit pessimistic, but I would think most fighters cheat to get the edge.

Why do you think DLH didn't come down harder on SSM when it was evident that he cheated? If you yourself had lost a close match in any sport and you found out your opponent cheated you of a win what would YOU do? Wouldn't you point fingers and tell everybody that you really should have won?

Well Oscar didn't do a thing. He let bygones be bygones. Do you think it's because he's indifferent towards his legacy?

...or maybe... just maybe... he was cheating himself.


Etc....

Because Oscar knows he was cheating as well.

[Walterson]

Because Oscar knows he was cheating as well.

IMDAZED,

you've got a fairly good boxing head on you.

what do you think towards my OP?

[Vadrigar.]

Because Oscar knows he was cheating as well.

What do you think it was?

[IMDAZED]

IMDAZED,

you've got a fairly good boxing head on you.

what do you think towards my OP?

I think you're right but I also think that's primarily because most of those guys were caught/suspected prior to the PED explosion. I think the attitude has changed today - primarily because once you're caught, the lack of PEDs shows in your performance afterward. Boxing's good at sweeping things under the rug so until the testing changes, the indifference won't.

[IMDAZED]

What do you think it was?

I don't know but like I've mentioned plenty of times on here before, it sure seems to me that he trained REALLY hard for the first Mosley bout. Really hard . In any case, there's a reason why Oscar's records are kept under lock and key. If Roy Jones was able to kill a failed drug test (Richard Hall broke that story...years later) then what do you think someone with Oscar's power could do?

[Mayabang]

... have still got the fans respect. Is this right?

Roy Jones Jr
James Toney
Holyfield
Mosley
etc

are all loved massively. Don't get me wrong I'm just as much a fan of these guys as you are.. I fell in love with boxing because of Roy Jones Jr.

But do you think it's 'right' that they get this much credit... and would they have reached the levels of praise they have gained if they hadn't used illegal substances... would they haven't beaten that many opponents? ... would Mosley have 'won' against De La Hoya? etc..

It's a sketchy topic of discussion, as a lot of people are fans of these guys.

But do you think 'we' as the fans show a disservice to the opponents they have faced whilst using 'illegal' substances?

What do you say.

P.S. Right now I think it's great that most people are taking a stand against cheaters such as Magarito. I hope this trend continues.

This pretty much shows you that boxing fans will always remember fighters that delivered 'exciting fights' and it doesn't matter how they are outside of the ring, it's about their performance inside the ring

[BattlingNelson]

Because Oscar knows he was cheating as well.

Yeah. That's what I was hinting at.