Pound for pound prime RJJ vs Floyd

[THE REED]

Yeah if floyd is at 135 and roy is at 168. But assuming all is equal I think floyd has enough power to bother roy.

And what about Roys power to bother Floyd?


Certainly you realize Roys power on a p4p basis far far exceeds Floyds right?

Hell, Horus himself would tell you that.

Roy is going to hurt Floyd before Floyd hurts Roy.

[AKATheMack]

P4P is hard because Floyd was a monster at 30-35. Roy definitely looked better moving up in weight than Floyd has though. Floyd is obviously a great, great fighter but hes gotten noticeably slower every time hes moved up in weight. Relying on the shoulder roll against Roy would be bad for Floyd because hes not going to be able to see anything Roy is throwing at him.

[The Big Dunn]

And what about Roys power to bother Floyd?


Certainly you realize Roys power on a p4p basis far far exceeds Floyds right?

Hell, Horus himself would tell you that.

Roy is going to hurt Floyd before Floyd hurts Roy.

well I thought that was assumed roy had enough poewer to bother him. I assume it exceeds it but I don't know by how much. I believe floyds power is very underated. He will never be a 1 punch ko fighter. But every fighter mentions how floyds power surpises them after the fact.

[IMDAZED]

well I thought that was assumed roy had enough poewer to bother him. I assume it exceeds it but I don't know by how much. I believe floyds power is very underated. He will never be a 1 punch ko fighter. But every fighter mentions how floyds power surpises them after the fact.

Yeah because they think he's feather fisted. Floyd's strength, to me, is more underrated. In any case, he does not have the pop to hurt RJJ. And like I said, he'd have an extremely tough time finding him. Roy would wing those flashy six punch combos and move. He was impossible to counter in his prime.

[THE REED]

well I thought that was assumed roy had enough poewer to bother him. I assume it exceeds it but I don't know by how much. I believe floyds power is very underated. He will never be a 1 punch ko fighter. But every fighter mentions how floyds power surpises them after the fact.

On the other hand... Roy IS a one punch KO artist.

Even in his 4th weight class, (if you include 154).

Roy has 40 knockouts, Floyd has 41 fights.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah because they think he's feather fisted. Floyd's strength, to me, is more underrated. In any case, he does not have the pop to hurt RJJ. And like I said, he'd have an extremely tough time finding him. Roy would wing those flashy six punch combos and move. He was impossible to counter in his prime.

Real good point. But counterpunching is floyd's strength and thats maybe how he wins. As great as roy was I think floyd finds a way to touch him enough.

[IMDAZED]

Real good point. But counterpunching is floyd's strength and thats maybe how he wins. As great as roy was I think floyd finds a way to touch him enough.

How? Even Floyd himself said it - Jones' strength lay in his legs and footwork. He was impossible to counter. Which made fighting him a ****ing nightmare. James Toney was a masterful counterpuncher (and a harder puncher than Floyd) and he landed all but about two right hands flush the full 12 rounds and both times Roy just sneered at him. Just not happening.

[THE REED]

Real good point. But counterpunching is floyd's strength and thats maybe how he wins. As great as roy was I think floyd finds a way to touch him enough.

And what was Roy's strength?

Swimming?

[The Big Dunn]

On the other hand... Roy IS a one punch KO artist.

Even in his 4th weight class, (if you include 154).

Roy has 40 knockouts, Floyd has 41 fights.

Reed you keep hitting me with the stats and of course they are 100% correct. But he has to hit floyd too. Your posts seem to imply that roy has no adjustments to make. Like fighting floyd is like fighting all other opponents. I respectfully disagree.

Roy was great, he wasn't perfect. The same flashy style that overwhelmed so many does not overwhelm someone I believe has the most skill set in the ring in a long long time.

[The Big Dunn]

And what was Roy's strength?

Swimming?

Cmon man now you see why I said biased to a degree. Its like you are taking everything I say like I'm discrediting RJJ when I'm not. Look, just don't start calling me a ***** or g2y or anything ok!