JMM: Pac punches harder, is faster, but Floyd's style is more difficult

[led]

thats like athleticism vs ring mastery.

[pgolf]

Marquez landed 69, Mosley landed 92. That's embarrassing.

Keep in mind... in the first 2 rounds Mosley had 29 connects. JMM had 8 connects in round 1 and 2.

If you discount the first two rounds, round 3 to 12, the connects were 61 to 63. Still in favor of Mosley, but on par. Both performances were bad, but in retrospect not bad for JMM, a smaller, slower and weaker foe who had no business fighting at WW.

[AFighter4U]

Apples and oranges guys.

130 is totally different from 147.

Also, at 130, Marquez fought someone his size allowing him to use his defensive fighting style and at his most comfortable weight.

At 147, not only was marquez forced to fight TWO WEIGHT CLASSES ABOVE HIS NORMAL WEIGHT CLASS, his opponent was taller, with a longer reach, forcing him to be the aggressor, which is NOT HIS FIGHTING STYLE.

He was also older when he did this, compounding his already numerous disadvantages.

Lastly, as if those above NUMEROUS disadvantages weren't enough, he was cheated at the previously agreed catch weight.

Basically, there were two different Marquezes fighting Pac and floyd. One was at his prime, fighting HIS STYLE, on HIS MOST FAVORABLE WEIGHT CLASS. The other was simply an old champion duped into fighting a bigger, taller guy who cheated him.

[Pacquiao'd]

shut of *****! gayweather sucks balls!

haha, i know i know

[Pacquiao'd]

Apples and oranges guys.

130 is totally different from 147.

Also, at 130, Marquez fought someone his size allowing him to use his defensive fighting style and at his most comfortable weight.

At 147, not only was marquez forced to fight TWO WEIGHT CLASSES ABOVE HIS NORMAL WEIGHT CLASS, his opponent was taller, with a longer reach, forcing him to be the aggressor, which is NOT HIS FIGHTING STYLE.

He was also older when he did this, compounding his already numerous disadvantages.

Lastly, as if those above NUMEROUS disadvantages weren't enough, he was cheated at the previously agreed catch weight.

Basically, there were two different Marquezes fighting Pac and floyd. One was at his prime, fighting HIS STYLE, on HIS MOST FAVORABLE WEIGHT CLASS. The other was simply an old champion duped into fighting a bigger, taller guy who cheated him.

JMM challeneged floyd. and if JMM felt so "cheated" he could/would have called the fight off

floyd came off a long lay off putting on alot of weight. plenty of people agreed that floyd was looking drained in some of his interviews leading up to the fight.

floyd payed the money and didnt draining himself. its called being smart. more boxers need to do the same and look out for their health, being that thats most important

thread back on topic

[AFighter4U]

JMM challeneged floyd. and if JMM felt so "cheated" he could/would have called the fight off

floyd came off a long lay off putting on alot of weight. plenty of people agreed that floyd was looking drained in some of his interviews leading up to the fight.

floyd payed the money and didnt draining himself. its called being smart. more boxers need to do the same and look out for their health, being that thats most important

thread back on topic

A lot of fighters called out floyd jr. But he chose to fight the smallest, oldest one out there.

of course floyd jr played smart. that's why he won. Marquez was obviously NOT smart for allowing all the cards stacked against him.

but regardless who was smart or not, it doesn't change the fact that the odds were overwhelmingly AGAINST Marquez and FOR floyd jr. Anyone saying that the Marquez/Floyd jr. fight was fought in an even playing field is living in a world of his own.

[Pacquiao'd]

A lot of fighters called out floyd jr. But he chose to fight the smallest, oldest one out there.

of course floyd jr played smart. that's why he won. Marquez was obviously NOT smart for allowing all the cards stacked against him.

but regardless who was smart or not, it doesn't change the fact that the odds were overwhelmingly AGAINST Marquez and FOR floyd jr. Anyone saying that the Marquez/Floyd jr. fight was fought in an even playing field is living in a world of his own.

he called out alot of fighters too. but i think you should think strategically, here.

Floyd returned to come after pac. and what better way to send to a message to them than making an example out of the the fighter most experts and boxing media outlets felt beat pac. that goes for the pinoy media as well.

and that was just a TUNE UP fight.

that was all abotu knocking off ring rust and sending a signal to team pac

and the odds will be for pac too. most likely 2:1. flyd is the best fighter in the world and the odds will reflect that

many people gave JMM a chance. b/c the fight wasnt about size, it was a thinking mans game. and people overestimated JMM ability as a boxer when he was facing someone that does everything he can do, but 10 times better

[TyrantT316]

Pacman may very well be faster and a harder puncher, but as Floyd says "it's not about speed and power, it's about timing and inches"

A good jab and timing can offset speed anytime. That's what happened with Forrest vs Mosley. Mosley was the more talented fighter, but Forrest had the movement, style, jab and timing to win.

Roy Jones was more physically gifted than Tarver, but Tarver had the style, patience and timing to give him trouble.

[AFighter4U]

he called out alot of fighters too. but i think you should think strategically, here.

Floyd returned to come after pac. and what better way to send to a message to them than making an example out of the the fighter most experts and boxing media outlets felt beat pac. that goes for the pinoy media as well.

and that was just a TUNE UP fight.

that was all abotu knocking off ring rust and sending a signal to team pac

and the odds will be for pac too. most likely 2:1. flyd is the best fighter in the world and the odds will reflect that

many people gave JMM a chance. b/c the fight wasnt about size, it was a thinking mans game. and people overestimated JMM ability as a boxer when he was facing someone that does everything he can do, but 10 times better

Like you said. It was a TUNE UP FIGHT. No real risk for him there. It wasn't a war, or even be considered a fight. It was a tune up fight, a little more than a sparring session. He fought a much smaller, shorter, OLDER, overweight fighter. Plus, he was smart enough to cheat at the weight just to be sure.

[purecyse]

Like you said. It was a TUNE UP FIGHT. No real risk for him there. It wasn't a war, or even be considered a fight. It was a tune up fight, a little more than a sparring session. He fought a much smaller, shorter, OLDER, overweight fighter. Plus, he was smart enough to cheat at the weight just to be sure.

yeah! floyd came in two pounds over the weight! it has nothing to do with the fact that he would have beat jmm at any weight on, probably, any night because he was just plain better.

pacquiao is suppose to be faster at the lighter weights and it is obvious pacquiao hits harder. the thing about pacquiao's recent opponents is that we haven't been able to get a decent feeling of how much speed he's lost by moving up in weight because he's fighting fighters like david diaz, hatton, cotto (who was terribly out-classed in speed by judah), de la hoya and margarito. not a fighter that thrives on speed among them.