Comments Thread For: Schaefer Stands His Ground on Mayweather-Pacquiao

[megas30]

Good post, that is the way i see it. What the fcuk would he gain from lying?

Look deeper, my friends. Arum has a date (Nov 13) with HBO which needs to be sold to the public. The public is being unforgiven, in that they would prefer Manny and Floyd. Floyd is taking the rest of the year off...Greenburg has to make a profit to please his boss (Shareholders). This means they have to find some rationale to sell the Margarito fight to the public, which means they have to make it seems as if they have exhausted all effort in trying to make a fight with Floyd, to warm the public up to Manny and Margarito.

Greenburg has a lot to loose if Manny and Margarito Fail.....HBO purchased the TV rights! Regardless, CEOs still have bosses-the shareholders and HBO is still a For-profit entity.

[bombshell]

the real story is.....bussiness as well.....
money matters???????????
why gbp are not reacting when arum published a that there is a contract
that have been made for floyd 3 weeks back before the deadline expire....why only now after a week later they reacting that there no negotiation happening in both sides....
they are passing the ball now! ..... huh ..........
we must admit it...this is a part of the game....part of the bussiness....
thats why there is a promoter....

[fcastro1]

tests,split,taxes,jail,arum lying now greenburg is lying. I know one truth is that elerbee lied in front of everyone when he said floyd dont inject **** into his hands. *****s are digging really deep to save floyd. Damn just man up. This is a smoking gun. What interest does greenburg have in picking sides. Everyone was saying lets wait till greenburg speaks before we jump to conclusions now he has alterior motives.team mayweather got found out and their is no escaping the fact that they have made a mockery of these negotiations. accusing pac of steroids, changing stances making new excuses now the president of hbo is a liar.How low can people get and even worse how can people defend this.

[joebal44]

I'm crying because they are pushing me to fight pacquiao and I know I'm going to lost this fight. My team are supporting me not to fight Pacquiao. waaah I don't want to fight him..

[jayhova29]

arum is not floyd,s boss, just manny's and his fans.

I'm crying because they are pushing me to fight pacquiao and I know I'm going to lost this fight. My team are supporting me not to fight Pacquiao. waaah I don't want to fight him..

If floyd is supposedly scared now because he didn't reply to sideshow bobs self inflicted deadline, does that make pacquiao scared because he refused in january, when everybody knew why. Floyds a ***** because he didn't respond to his former's bosses deadline and you guys treat everything arum says as gold whenever it defends manny. People with sense will see this for what it is and that's just bob arums obligation to the nov. 13th slot with hbo. Since when in gods green earth do you start negotiations the day after one of theparticipants fought. Its funny beforehand bob was stated as saying he didn't wanna negotiate through the media, now that's all he's been doing. Its almost like nobody heard mayweather at his basketball camp a month ago saying he wasn't thinking about boxing he wanted to take some time off.

Since we"re back in the media again talking why don't you let the fans know what exactly pacquiao agreed to and what mayweather refused. I can just see mayweather laughing his ass off now. "This clown rejected a fight with me and left 30'mil on the table, I step up my competition and destroyed the guy he wouldn't dare step into the ring with, and made as much money as the p4p fighter of the decade did in my last 2 fights than he did in his career. So why is his promoter giving me a deadline like I'm losing out on something. Ill tell you why they realize all roads leads through mayweather and they wanna get paid.

[jayhova29]

tests,split,taxes,jail,arum lying now greenburg is lying. I know one truth is that elerbee lied in front of everyone when he said floyd dont inject **** into his hands. *****s are digging really deep to save floyd. Damn just man up. This is a smoking gun. What interest does greenburg have in picking sides. Everyone was saying lets wait till greenburg speaks before we jump to conclusions now he has alterior motives.team mayweather got found out and their is no escaping the fact that they have made a mockery of these negotiations. accusing pac of steroids, changing stances making new excuses now the president of hbo is a liar.How low can people get and even worse how can people defend this.

My question is who was representing Mayweather? And if these negotiations took place and your all in the media trying to point fingers why don't you let the fans no what it is exactly that Pacquiao agreed too, and what did Mayweather reject. Because if the 14day cut off was in that proposal no wonder they're not jumping. What you guys don't seem to be aware of is that Bob Arum already has a date of Nov 13.th scheduled on HBO and he has to deliver. I remember Margarito stating in a March or February article that Bob Arum promised him a shot at Pacquiao in November.

Its funny how Greenburg states that him and bob started negotiations as early as May 2nd, the day after Floyd's victory over shane. I never knew negotiations start that fast. But with all the smokescreens being thrown and how still Richard Schaeffer is sticking to his story gives me the impression that this was just a ploy on side show bob to have fans support Manny's next fight with a guy that doesn't even have a license in the state yet to fight. Im not buying this Mayweather is ducking **** until i hear that Pacquiao agreed to blood testing up until the fight and Mayweather denied. Thats ducking, we dont even know what was proposed yet and we're already pointing fingers. Like he's lying or their lying, fact of the matter is the fight's not happening this year. If floyd is a ***** because he didn't jump to his former boss's deadline, then what does that make manny for not doing the same in January. At least we know why he didnt sign then.

Sooner or later as fans we should start demanding from Manny what we did from Floyd in January. Fight somebody who has a legitimate shot at beating you. Floyd dominated a guy that Manny didn't wanna fight at jr ww and now that he see's that bob arum is raping him financially he wants the fight that couldve been made on March 13th now. Bob Arum knows exaxctly what he's doing, he's not going to feed his cash cow to the wolves until he can make as much money of him as he can. So let the catchweigh king cheat history and fight for a super ww title at 150lbs, and you pac tards can suck his **** like he fought and beat a real legitimate threat.

[SluggerFan]

Both Arum and Greenburg lying? Bull****!

Look deeper, my friends. Arum has a date (Nov 13) Greenburg has a lot to loose if Manny and Margarito Fail.....HBO purchased the TV rights! Regardless, CEOs still have bosses-the shareholders and HBO is still a For-profit entity.

The fight will not fail. Regardless of how many people say they will boycott the fight it will still do at least 700,000 PPV buys (like Clottey) but will probably be closer to 1 million PPVs, since everyone knows Margarito comes to fight (as opposed to Clottey).

The deal is this! Schaefer says Floyd Jr. said on June 7th he was not interested in fighting and that is bull****! He didn't say anything until after July 16th. Secondly, I have a very hard time believing that both Arum AND Greenburg are lying. This whole "no negotiations" is a ploy to take away from all the flack Floyd Jr. got for his "I am not thinking about boxing right now!" It's all bull**** and anyone who believes the Mayweather camp, I got Florida swamp land to sell you. I know Arum, Don King, Dibella, Goossen, etc are all scumbags but so is Ellerber, Schaefer and all of Golden Boy as well...

[SluggerFan]

My question is who was representing Mayweather? And if these negotiations took place and your all in the media trying to point fingers why don't you let the fans no what it is exactly that Pacquiao agreed too, and what did Mayweather reject.

That's the point, Mayweather rejected nothing! He always has a million and one excuses and this time he has one huge legitimate one regarding Roger. He could have said anything: I don't like the money split, I don't like the testing agreement, etc. but he said nothing, so he rejected nothing. What Team Mayweather did was let everyone stew for two months waiting for an announcement and said nothing. If there were no negotiations, why didn't they say so way back when. They didn't and that's the problem. Now, all these excuses the Mayweather fans are making are ringing hollow...

[goldenglove2]

what were the terms? if arum said that greenburg nor himself heard back from team mayweather, how did mayweather supposedly "agree?" who was greenburg talking to ifschaffer said he wasnt talking to them?

all simply questions

so you are acknowledging that thier were negotiations. great.

If there was an issue on Pac not accepting the testing or something else both camps couldnt agree on then May's camp would have just said "hey, fight couldnt get made, we couldnt agree "..Pac called thier OST BLUFF and agreed to the terms so Floyd and camp are just gonna act like there wasnt any negotiations....LMAO.

[grayfist]

I'm just musing...

Perhaps it was Oscar who told Bob? After all, it was Oscar who said quite a mouthful in June that negotiations were progressing rather well while others held mysterious peace.

The later (and recent) excuse that Oscar gave of having been tired when the earlier statement was made looks so limp that one is prodded to focus on what was initially said, the circumstances under which it was said and the number of words that were used to say it. After one has looked at the initial statement closely, one tends to think that "fed up" and "tired" cannot possibly justify.

Compare:

Initial declaration:

"Up until now, it's been a very difficult negotiation process for various reasons, but right now we're very close. We're very close in finalizing the contracts that were once very complicated. The two fighters now realize that this fight must be made. It has to be made because boxing fans want to see it happen and right now it is the biggest fight that can be made in the world. It's going to be a big fight. I think right now we are very very close in finalizing the contracts. I can't talk right now about the negotiations, but I will say that they are very close."

Retraction:

"I think I said it because I got the question asked so many times that I, obviously, was fed up and tired of it and I just said, 'yeah, yeah it's gonna be made.

So, it was a quick answer that I should have, obviously, thought about."

Notice is invited to the repeated assurance that things are "very close" which was repeated four times and the word "negotiation" being mentioned twice. Contrary to Oscar's subsequent claim, the first statement cannot be mistaken for being merely a dismissive, "...yeah, yeah it's gonna be made."

Perhaps, Oscar should do an Arum, in reverse:" Today I am lying, yesterday I was telling the truth." Then, perhaps, most people would understand.