Who is P4P #3 ???

[Gorilla Dogs]

if martinez wouldn't have been robbed vs cintron/williams, he would have been my choice but he isn't. Also IF he would have beaten williams, there might have never been the Pavlik fight se I guess everything has a purspose after all

Pound for pound aint about how good it looks on boxrec, do you even know what pound for pound means?

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Pound for pound aint about how good it looks on boxrec, do you even know what pound for pound means?

do you????

I thought u were going to retire anyways!?

[badboypeenoy]

No we don't know he beat Williams. People are disagreeing on that one. It was not a clear robbery or anything like that. Just like we can't count Pacquiao as a W for JMM.

Nah, that fight is more like Mayweather-Castillo 1, where we all know that the winner got a gift W.

[Gorilla Dogs]

do you????

I thought u were going to retire anyways!?

Pound for pound is havin the skills that would work at any weight


Wladimir is just JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB CLINCH...JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB CLINCH


His reach is what makes him win, and his JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB CLINCH

[120]

how come Ivan Calderon has never been a top 3 p4p then? one of the most pure talented boxer of this era. U have to prove your dominance and keep on beating people, its not based on talent alone. U have to take everything into consideration, on top of that, wladimir has p4p one of the meanest punches in boxing and would put almost everyone on the ground if he hits you with his right hand. At the moment there hasn't been any meaningful fights to chose a no 3. But out of that list if one deserves it, it's him because with is jab jab jab grab, he has DOMINATED the HW division for quite some time

[Gorilla Dogs]

how come Ivan Calderon has never been a top 3 p4p then? one of the most pure talented boxer of this era. U have to prove your dominance and keep on beating people, its not based on talent alone. U have to take everything into consideration, on top of that, wladimir has p4p one of the meanest punches in boxing and would put almost everyone on the ground if he hits you with his right hand. At the moment there hasn't been any meaningful fights to chose a no 3. But out of that list if one deserves it, it's him because with is jab jab jab grab, he has DOMINATED the HW division for quite some time

The reason he is winning is because of his height and reach advantage, thats the reason his jab is effective


Any other division >>> Heavy weight div

[boxer2k5]

no andre ward?

[Gorilla Dogs]

no andre ward?

did he recently hold 5 titles at one time?



Ppl seriously overrate undefeated records...SERIOUSLY

[boxer2k5]

did he recently hold 5 titles at one time?



Ppl seriously overrate undefeated records...SERIOUSLY

who said anything about undefeated record. and i didnt mean for him to be number 3
but he wasnt on the list period. and he is a champion in his division which is having a great tournament and he is in the lead of it already beating possibly the top guy in division as well as a top contender as well. who got your panties in a bunch like calm down

btw i voted for wlad i think he p4p num3 anyway

[SonOfCuba]

Andre Ward