If Mayweather EVER fights Cotto in his LIFE...HE should be Called a "*****"!!

[RL_GMA]

Cotto has never been #2 or 3 pound 4 pound in the world.

JMM does everything better than Cotto.
the only advantage Cotto has over JMM is size.

now when comparing who will be a tougher fight for Mayweather.


if you say cotto...Primarily based on size..
then you are wrong.

Because if that is the case.
Then the Oscar of 2007 was and is a tougher fight for Floyd than a Cotto fight ever will be. because that Oscar was bigger, stronger, and had more power than cotto... and Floyd still won that fight.

Size doesnt always wins fights.
Skills win fights
Brains wins fights
Experience wins fights

If sizes always wins fights we wouldn't have fighters winning titles in 3 4,5,and 6 weight classes

Skills have a bigger part to winning fights
than size does.

History proves that!

Juan M. Marquez is a better fighter than Cotto..
JMM is better in every boxing catergory than cotto.
JMM is smarter and has more experience than cotto

and the only thing cotto has on JMM is size and power.

but is size and power tHe primary weapon a fighter will have to have to beat floyd?

when has that ever worked against floyd?

Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.

Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.


So with that said...

How is Cotto a tougher fight than JMM?
From a boxing stand point can someone explain

That's just speculating

It doesn't matter either way, if the fight makes sense at that time, it'll happen. We can't base things as they are now and look down 2-3 yrs and say, "HELL NAH THEY'RE NEVER GONNA FIGHT AND HE'LL BE A ***** IF HE DOES!!". Things change.

[Horus]

That's just speculating

It doesn't matter either way, if the fight makes sense at that time, it'll happen. We can't base things as they are now and look down 2-3 yrs and say, "HELL NAH THEY'RE NEVER GONNA FIGHT AND HE'LL BE A ***** IF HE DOES!!". Things change.

I agree things change, but as of right now. My answer is no.
I do not see Cotto going on some incredible winning steak that would make me change my mind as to cotto as a fighter.

I said this many many many times before and I will say it again..

Whats change in cotto style since 2006? When he wasnt ready for Mayweather and people were calling him green?

he still

Swings wide,
Waste Punches,
has a weak chin
Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.

and this is when he said he was still green....????
what did he improve??? to say
"Cotto is a tougher fight for floyd than JMM" ...what did he improve..?


Cotto has always had a good jab, cotto has always had good speed....Cotto is a good fighter...real good...he is a good body puncher and works hard..
so that hasnt change...

so what change so much that he is now ready to beat a fighter like mayweather MORE THAN jmm...?

[Spray_resistant]

Cotto has never been #2 or 3 pound 4 pound in the world.

JMM does everything better than Cotto.
the only advantage Cotto has over JMM is size.

now when comparing who will be a tougher fight for Mayweather.


if you say cotto...Primarily based on size..
then you are wrong.

Because if that is the case.
Then the Oscar of 2007 was and is a tougher fight for Floyd than a Cotto fight ever will be. because that Oscar was bigger, stronger, and had more power than cotto... and Floyd still won that fight.

Size doesnt always wins fights.
Skills win fights
Brains wins fights
Experience wins fights

If sizes always wins fights we wouldn't have fighters winning titles in 3 4,5,and 6 weight classes

Skills have a bigger part to winning fights
than size does.

History proves that!

Juan M. Marquez is a better fighter than Cotto..
JMM is better in every boxing catergory than cotto.
JMM is smarter and has more experience than cotto

and the only thing cotto has on JMM is size and power.

but is size and power tHe primary weapon a fighter will have to have to beat floyd?

when has that ever worked against floyd?

Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.

Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.


So with that said...

How is Cotto a tougher fight than JMM?
From a boxing stand point can someone explain

What does where someone was ranked P4P have to do with anything? you do know that stuff is all pretend right?

Cotto's speed is comparable in addition to him being maybe not as good a boxer and as ring savvy but still a good boxer.

If Cotto did fight Floyd and actually won a round that would make you totally wrong wouldn't it?

JMM was too small and had nowhere near enough pop to make Floyd the least bit cautious he could do whatever he wanted, Cotto is a different story even though he will most likely lose if they fought. Power is not everything but its important, for ex. what if Malinaggi had power huh? changes things doesn't it?

[Twako]

id still watch it out of curiousity even though i know floyd will UD him.

cotto has decent speed and can counter like what he did to mosley, if the punches weren't coming in volumes. against pac, he was ok the first 2 rounds till he cant keep up w/ the volume. against mayweather, he'd still lose but it wont be a beating. floyd wouldn't even trade.

[Horus]

What does where someone was ranked P4P have to do with anything? you do know that stuff is all pretend right?

Cotto's speed is comparable in addition to him being maybe not as good a boxer and as ring savvy but still a good boxer.

If Cotto did fight Floyd and actually won a round that would make you totally wrong wouldn't it?

JMM was too small and had nowhere near enough pop to make Floyd the least bit cautious he could do whatever he wanted, Cotto is a different story even though he will most likely lose if they fought. Power is not everything but its important, for ex. what if Malinaggi had power huh? changes things doesn't it?

Pound 4 Pound more than anything is a indicator of a fighters skill compared to his pears.
thats why it is important.

Too me Cotto wouldnt win round and shouldnt win a round.


Cotto does nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez. to say he will be a tougher fight for floyd than JMM.. just based on Size and Power

Just like Ricky Hatton did nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez to say he will be a tougher fight for Pacquiao than JMM just based on Size and Power

Just like John Ruiz did nothing in terms of boxing better than Tarver to say
he will be a tougher fight for Roy Jones just based on Size and Power


When will you guys learn size doesnt always win fights...
Skills win fights. brains win fights, experience wins fights...

and JMM beats cotto in all of those departments.

SO can someone explain how stylistically cotto is a tougher fight for Floyd than JMM?



I say JMM style gives floyd more trouble. for the simple fact that he is more versatile

size and power will not beat floyd?

when has that ever worked against floyd?

Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.

Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.


So with that said...what chance does cotto have.

[Junito-Rulez]

P4P yes but in this place called real life he would get badly hurt by Cotto.

That's right. Horus you need to stop with that JMM is better than Cotto thing. It's not true, we all know Cotto would beat the **** out of Marquez EASILY.

Morales is a better fighter P4P than Margarito but we know that in a fight Margarito would kick his ass easily.

Damn, Cotto beat MOSLEY in 2005, a MUCH BETTER version than the Mosley who got beat by Floyd. When you're a Floyd fan you shouldn't open your mouth about Cotto. Their best win is over the same fighter and Cotto won against a 4 year younger version. PERIOD.

[RL_GMA]

I agree things change, but as of right now. My answer is no.
I do not see Cotto going on some incredible winning steak that would make me change my mind as to cotto as a fighter.

I said this many many many times before and I will say it again..

Whats change in cotto style since 2006? When he wasnt ready for Mayweather and people were calling him green?

he still

Swings wide,
Waste Punches,
has a weak chin
Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.

and this is when he said he was still green....????
what did he improve??? to say
"Cotto is a tougher fight for floyd than JMM" ...what did he improve..?


Cotto has always had a good jab, cotto has always had good speed....Cotto is a good fighter...real good...he is a good body puncher and works hard..
so that hasnt change...

so what change so much that he is now ready to beat a fighter like mayweather MORE THAN jmm...?

That's your opinion on Cotto, but again, in Boxing we've seen the unthinkable, and I'm not saying Cotto is going to be #1 P4P, but you have to consider how things do change in Boxing and how it effects match making. You may say Mayweather simply beats the piss out of Cotto now, but what if Floyd loses to Pacquiao when they eventually fight? and loses very decisively (i.e. KO, TKO, etc)? If Cotto is still winning at that point (which at least by 2012 he'd only be 31-32), how would a Cotto vs Mayweather (who'd be 34-35) fight not be a good fight for Mayweather then? It's a fight that's never been made and both still would be top draws in the sport.

Does the fight makes sense right now? Of course not. Does that mean it won't happen in 2-3 yrs? Definitely not. And both Mayweather and Cotto fans will buy the PPV without question.

[Spray_resistant]

Pound 4 Pound more than anything is a indicator of a fighters skill compared to his pears.
thats why it is important.

Too me Cotto wouldnt win round and shouldnt win a round.


Cotto does nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez. to say he will be a tougher fight for floyd than JMM.. just based on Size and Power

Just like Ricky Hatton did nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez to say he will be a tougher fight for Pacquiao than JMM just based on Size and Power

Just like John Ruiz did nothing in terms of boxing better than Tarver to say
he will be a tougher fight for Roy Jones just based on Size and Power


When will you guys learn size doesnt always win fights...
Skills win fights. brains win fights, experience wins fights...

and JMM beats cotto in all of those departments.

SO can someone explain how stylistically cotto is a tougher fight for Floyd than JMM?



I say JMM style gives floyd more trouble. for the simple fact that he is more versatile

What your saying is alot like saying Chris John would beat Randall Bailey on the basis that Juan Urango did and John is better than Urango in all aspects other than size and power. Size/power is not everything like I said but it can be the differences between holding someone off and getting/not getting KTFO.

[7 Mares]

Get a ****ing life horus and stop defending a man you will never meet nor does he care about his ****ing fanbase. Stop writing essays trying to be witty and intellectual when we all know your a ****ing ****** that actually thinks boats are an investment

[Junito-Rulez]

Pound 4 Pound more than anything is a indicator of a fighters skill compared to his pears.
thats why it is important.

Too me Cotto wouldnt win round and shouldnt win a round.


Cotto does nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez. to say he will be a tougher fight for floyd than JMM.. just based on Size and Power

Just like Ricky Hatton did nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez to say he will be a tougher fight for Pacquiao than JMM just based on Size and Power

Just like John Ruiz did nothing in terms of boxing better than Tarver to say
he will be a tougher fight for Roy Jones just based on Size and Power


When will you guys learn size doesnt always win fights...
Skills win fights. brains win fights, experience wins fights...

and JMM beats cotto in all of those departments.

SO can someone explain how stylistically cotto is a tougher fight for Floyd than JMM?



I say JMM style gives floyd more trouble. for the simple fact that he is more versatile

size and power will not beat floyd?

when has that ever worked against floyd?

Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.

Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.


So with that said...what chance does cotto have.

Bull**** Zab Judah got stopped by Cotto. Don't try to sell us that Judah is a better boxer than Cotto.

Then when u talk about JMM being better than Cotto in all aspects, im like.. WTF??????????

Miguel Cotto ain't no bum. He's a MUCH better body puncher than Marquez, is much stronger and a better puncher. He knows how to hunt a man better than Marquez who couldn't get Floyd where he wanted. Cotto when he was in trouble against Pacquiao( much faster footspeed than Floyd), he still managed to make Pacquiao on the ropes.