If Rafa beats Juanma, does he surpass JMM?

[Iceta Lives]

JMM > EM > MAB.

JMM and EM would've beat the **** out of Naz worst than MAB did to NAZ.

JMM is still a top p4p fighter right now and where is EM and MAB right now? Fighting scrubs.

So Hatton and Morales (who JMM is calling out at this point in time) are tougher challenges than Soto and Khan? And as for the question of the TS, absolutely Rafael Marquez will go down as the greater fighter if he beats Lopez.

[Iceta Lives]

One thing I will say you cant call Juanma a overrated coward and then claim him as a great win.

You bitches needs to get your **** toegether

I never said Lopez ****** as a fighter and I think he's good. But it's just that he's a diva and goes out of his way to avoid the young or prime fighters at the top of their game. And I'm one of Lopez's biggest haters on here and I view Rafael Marquez taking a fight like that as way more respectable than JMM fighting Juan fucking Diaz who got schooled by Paulie of all peeps. JMM has lost me as a fan by not only that, but also calling out Hatton and Morales like he's doing.

[Iceta Lives]

Its a good win for him now only cuz' he's old puto.

If he was still young and prime, it would be an ok win cuz' he's supposed to beat an inferior fighter like Juana.

I see people call me a Rican hater and I'm being more objective than dude here is.

On another tip, if Robert Guerrero ends up beating Casa then that will hurt JMM's res like Paulie beating Diaz twice did. I think as of right now, Rafael Marquez should be considered the greater fighter.

[LEFT HOOK TITO]

Im tired of this proud mexicans that think Rafa was skilled because he had wars with vasquez.

The kid was **** , he was a sacrificing warrior. You know , that mexian style of boxing , where u have a shield (ur face) , hoping it holds up to the other guys punches.

Dejen de mamarselo tanto.

[War Dinamita]

So Hatton and Morales (who JMM is calling out at this point in time) are tougher challenges than Soto and Khan? And as for the question of the TS, absolutely Rafael Marquez will go down as the greater fighter if he beats Lopez.

Morales and Hatton have nothing left and are past prime, but both of these guys would give JMM a nice payday. Remember he only makes around one million per fight.

Why should he fight Khan? Khan has all the advantages at 140 and JMM should not be fighting at anything over 135. His best weight right now is at 140. How many fights has JMM fought at 140? lol Khan only wants to fight JMM because JMM is almost done as a fighter.

Soto won't make him a big payday like Hatton, Morales, and Pacquiao.

[Iceta Lives]

Morales and Hatton have nothing left and are past prime, but both of these guys would give JMM a nice payday. Remember he only makes around one million per fight.

Why should he fight Khan? Khan has all the advantages at 140 and JMM should not be fighting at anything over 135. His best weight right now is at 140. How many fights has JMM fought at 140? lol Khan only wants to fight JMM because JMM is almost done as a fighter.

Soto won't make him a big payday like Hatton, Morales, and Pacquiao.

I thought we were talking about who was greater between JMM and Barrera and Morales. I didn't know this thread was about fighters' bank accounts. I like JMM better than Barrera and not as good as Morales and I view Morales and Barrera as more deserving of the great fighter lable simply because they won their biggest fights. Barrera is going after a fourth belt while JMM is moving down in weight to fight a guy who he already destroyed and coming off two losses to a gatekeeper to add insult to the injury. I'm telling you, I like JMM a lot but I don't know why his other fans defend him like they do. He doesn't fight for legacy.

[Dick Buffman]

I thought we were talking about who was greater between JMM and Barrera and Morales. I didn't know this thread was about fighters' bank accounts. I like JMM better than Barrera and not as good as Morales and I view Morales and Barrera as more deserving of the great fighter lable simply because they won their biggest fights. Barrera is going after a fourth belt while JMM is moving down in weight to fight a guy who he already destroyed and coming off two losses to a gatekeeper to add insult to the injury. I'm telling you, I like JMM a lot but I don't know why his other fans defend him like they do. He doesn't fight for legacy.

It doesn't get more "legacied" out than fighting Pac 2x and wanting a 3rd fight, and then moving up 2 weight classes in 6 months to fight Mayweather.

He deserves a Hatton fight to go out on.

[War Dinamita]

I thought we were talking about who was greater between JMM and Barrera and Morales. I didn't know this thread was about fighters' bank accounts. I like JMM better than Barrera and not as good as Morales and I view Morales and Barrera as more deserving of the great fighter lable simply because they won their biggest fights. Barrera is going after a fourth belt while JMM is moving down in weight to fight a guy who he already destroyed and coming off two losses to a gatekeeper to add insult to the injury. I'm telling you, I like JMM a lot but I don't know why his other fans defend him like they do. He doesn't fight for legacy.

Barrera should just retired because he's been finished for years.

Not his fault Manny doesn't want to fight him.

[Iceta Lives]

It doesn't get more "legacied" out than fighting Pac 2x and wanting a 3rd fight, and then moving up 2 weight classes in 6 months to fight Mayweather.

He deserves a Hatton fight to go out on.

The fact he constantly dwells on Pacquiao is the thing that hurts his legacy in my view. I give him credit for fighting his ass off in those two fights, but let's face it. Even if they were controversial he and other people need to move on. It is true that I think he wants to piggy back off of Pacquiao's status instead of building his own status. Diaz and Casamayor are considered his biggest wins, and if Casamayor ends up getting whipped by Guerrero (which I think will happen) then that means JMM has no career defining wins. It's sad, but he brought it on himself. Casamayor did KO Katsidis though, so I can't totally down play that win. If Casamayor proves me wrong and whips Guerrero, then peoples' opinion about Casa being a good win on JMM's resume will be valid.