Is it fair for a 6'3 tall man to fight a 5'6 man because they're the same weight?

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  • Calilloyd
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    #201
    Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
    I'm not saying fight to prove himself as a top fighter, but fight to prove that he can go back down and still be as good as he was prior to moving up. I also question him being good at 147 again, which is why I want him to face a top WW before he faces Manny.








    I believe Williams can still fight there and if Pacquiao beat him I would give Manny full credit.

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      #202
      Originally posted by Calilloyd
      How many people attend Clottey's fights? And don't use Pacquiao as an example because he sold that fight.
      Well Clottey was chosen due to only having a few weeks to negotiate a ppv fight before Manny started his campaign. If Top Rank had a larger window, then I could see using Clottey as a reason to why Pac should face Williams or any fighter with a limited fan base.

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        #203
        [QUOTE=makaveli87;8887644]What exactly are you arguing?

        I'm arguing about the fairness of the fight. Not whether it should be made or not or if there have been unfair match ups in the past. Or if the smaller guy can win. All I'm doing is answering the thread question.

        Williams is currently one of my favorite fighters btw. And I am intrigued about this possible fight. I'm not trying to discredit him. I am just pointing out that this is a size mismatch.

        Have you ever heard of a fair mismatch???[/QUOTE]









        Manny Pacquiao is nobody's mismatch at 147 today. I don't care if Williams was 6-7. So using that as a reason is weak. Height and reach alone don't get it done.
        Last edited by Calilloyd; 07-23-2010, 04:32 PM.

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        • pistol whip
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          #204
          Originally posted by Calilloyd
          The issue was where they rehydrate back to after the weigh in. And Williams doesn't rehydrate any more than either one. If he does, prove it instead of guessing.

          Did I say that he was heavier than Margarito or Clottey? No! But he does hold a tramendouse hight and reach advantage when compared to Clottey and Margarito and as I said Before he fought at a weight class higher than Clotty and Tony ever have.

          How can you justify Paul going from Kelly Pavlik and to Pacman especially when the new Middleweight Champ and HBO are more than willing to give a shot at that belt. Seriously man this isn't just about weight advantages otherwise Paul would be fighting Martinez no problem.

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            #205
            Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
            Well Clottey was chosen due to only having a few weeks to negotiate a ppv fight before Manny started his campaign. If Top Rank had a larger window, then I could see using Clottey as a reason to why Pac should face Williams or any fighter with a limited fan base.









            I understand that. My point was that Clottey is not a bigger draw than Williams.

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            • Calilloyd
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              #206
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Did I say that he was heavier than Margarito or Clottey? No! But he does hold a tramendouse hight and reach advantage when compared to Clottey and Margarito and as I said Before he fought at a weight class higher than Clotty and Tony ever have.

              How can you justify Paul going from Kelly Pavlik and to Pacman especially when the new Middleweight Champ and HBO are more than willing to give a shot at that belt. Seriously man this isn't just about weight advantages otherwise Paul would be fighting Martinez no problem.











              This is about money. And Martinez did the same thing when he wanted Mayweather as his first choice. I didn't see you complaining about that. Williams -Martinez will probably still happen. But when you use Williams height and the fact that he moved up as an excuse, it doesn't cut it. Especially when the majority of his fights have been at 147.

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                #207
                Originally posted by Calilloyd
                I believe Williams can still fight there and if Pacquiao beat him I would give Manny full credit.
                Okay. Fair enough. Not that it matters but I feel Manny should face Tony to see if he can handle bigger fighters, and then go after Williams or Martinez if he cant make a fight with Floyd next year.

                I look at this the same way I see a guy like Adamek fighting Grant to see if he can compete with Large HWs like the Klitschkos bros. If he passes Margarito test with flying colors, and shows that fighting at 154 is no issue then I will be the first guy posting about making Pac vs Martinez or Pac vs Williams at 154.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  WTF when did he become an inside fighter? Seriously man I think it's you who's never seen the man fight because he only sits there throwing a hundred punches a round without getting countered because it's all coming from range. He'd just be smothering all his punches if he did that all from the inside.

                  Seriously man I did a face palm when I read your statement here.
                  ??????????

                  Williams fights nothing like that bro. "Throwing 100 punches a round Without getting countered".

                  Wow.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    ??????????

                    Williams fights nothing like that bro. "Throwing 100 punches a round Without getting countered".

                    Wow.








                    He should just go on and admit that he has never seen Williams fight LOL

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                    • makaveli87
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Calilloyd
                      Manny Pacquiao is nobody's mismatch at 147 today. I don't care if Williams was 6-7. So using that as a reason is weak. Height and reach alone don't get it done.
                      Obviously I am referring to a size mismatch only. Your comprehension level is severely lacking.

                      This is not a fair fight based on size. It is a mismatch. No, not a fair mismatch.

                      When one possesses a 9' height and 15' reach advantage, things are not even. When things are not even, fairness cannot be had. <<< Use logic

                      Fair-To be even, like or similar.
                      Advantage-A favorable position, superiority of means. (eg.NOT fair, even, like or similar)

                      Williams has a significant height and reach advantage. Therefore the fight isn't fair in this regards. This is what the question asks. This is what I have been explaining.

                      I'm done with this, your wasting my time. As you can tell by my post count, I don't usually waste my time on things like this. There are too many hard minded individuals on here. I wont call you idiots because I know some of you aren't. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Accumulate a thousand more posts before I get to 100. Waste you own time.

                      PEACE
                      Last edited by makaveli87; 07-23-2010, 04:50 PM.

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