Comments Thread For: Arum: By Monday, Pacquiao's Fight Should Be Decided

[Bigchill79]

Hate to say it but he is a bigger name than those 3.

Respec......................................

[PsYcHoDaD]

Manny fans argue that manny faces the best competition always, fights for legacy not money, and does whats good for the sport. The criticize floyd for picking fights against lesser opponents for more money.

If manny does this (marg/cotto) over tim/paul/berto he is doing the same thing manny fans throw at floyd. So, now that manny is doing it, is it ok? Or, are they going to hold manny to the same standard they hold floyd.

Isnt it Floyd that goes around saying Boxing is a business why cant Manny do the same?Its not even up to Manny anyways I am sure Manny would destroy those guys.

[jaestix1]

Hate to say it but he is a bigger name than those 3.

clottey is not a bigger name than paul williams and timothy bradley is probably a bigger name too.

[Khalid X]

Bull**** manny does need us to do his numbers, thats the reason clottey did 500k less than cotto. Some of us, like me, purchased every manny fight up through clottey. That fight reeked from the time it was set up.

Manny fights paul/tim/berto or any quality non top rank guy I'm in. I will not buy marg becasue he is a cheater. If cotto2 is at 154 i'm in. Any cathweight BS and no.

Okay if your a guy who supports the sport and doesn't pay then I can see your argument. That response is to the posters who always be for streams then post about not buying the fight in November. The same guys saying that are the same posters I always see begging for streams. Those guys never support boxing anyway, which was the point I was making. You obviously don't sound like you fit that category (leacher) and you seem like a dude who supports the sport, so that wasn't a diss to you.

[Bigchill79]

Manny fans argue that manny faces the best competition always, fights for legacy not money, and does whats good for the sport. The criticize floyd for picking fights against lesser opponents for more money.

If manny does this (marg/cotto) over tim/paul/berto he is doing the same thing manny fans throw at floyd. So, now that manny is doing it, is it ok? Or, are they going to hold manny to the same standard they hold floyd.

def. Tards are blind

[PsYcHoDaD]

clottey is not a bigger name than paul williams and timothy bradley is probably a bigger name too.

They were giving away tickets to see PWill at the home depot and Bradley couldnt even sell out a 2000 seat arena in his own hometown.

[IMDAZED]

Hate to say it but he is a bigger name than those 3.

Hate to tell you that he's not - at least not when Pac fought him.

[The Big Dunn]

Isnt it Floyd that goes around saying Boxing is a business why cant Manny do the same?Its not even up to Manny anyways I am sure Manny would destroy those guys.

I dont agree that manny destoys them. But I do agree Manny has every right to do the same. But will manny's fans judge his actions as they do floyds? Its not about the fighters its about the fans and how they judge each fighter.

Its is up to Manny. The promoter works for the fighter not the other way around! Manny says he wants to fight either paul/williams/berto then Bob make it happen.

[The Big Dunn]

Okay if your a guy who supports the sport and doesn't pay then I can see your argument. That response is to the posters who always be for streams then post about not buying the fight in November. The same guys saying that are the same posters I always see begging for streams. Those guys never support boxing anyway, which was the point I was making. You obviously don't sound like you fit that category (leacher) and you seem like a dude who supports the sport, so that wasn't a diss to you.

Yeah. I'm a grown man. I don't mind paying for fights. Besides, I hate not seeing a fight live, it just changes the experience.

You made a really good point about streams. I wonder if that contributed to the low PPV #'s for manny clottey?

[Khalid X]

good points, but in no way is clottey a top 5 ww. David Diaz had a belt but was not a top 5 lw. but that is a small point.

Margarito in his last 2 fights was destoyed after getting caught attempting to cheat and then (i didn't see it I only read about it) from all accounts looked like crap in his last fight. He is not right now the best competition nor has he earned a shot at the 154lb title. He clearly isn't as good as the other 3 at this point, besides paul killed him.

I have no problem with you as long as manny is held to the same standard.

At the time Manny fought him I considered him one. He beat Judah, Baldomir and in the minds of most who watched, beat Cotto as well (I had Cotto edging out by a point FWIW). Not only that but he also had a close fight with Margarito as well. I think most forget that Clottey has actually put in some work and has been in with a lot of good guys.

My rankings at the time
1. Pacquiao
2. Mosley
3. Mayweather
4. Cotto
5. Clottey

He obviously had done more than Berto or any other guy at that weight, so of course he was top 5 at the time

my LW rankings at the time
1. Casamayor
2. Campbell
3. Juan Diaz
4. David Diaz
5. Michael Katsidis