Timothy Bradley. Overhyped?

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  • HARLEM AL
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    #61
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Yeah notice how all those fighter are irrelevent after all these new crop of 140 pounders started coming up in the ranks.
    Of course they are irrelevant now. He fought them when they were. who the f^ck has Mad fought. Also understand as fighters lose and get old new ones come in. Bradley is the champ at 140(no i dont give a f^ck if they got Pac there because he is never going to defend it and they should have been removed him from it).

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    • pistol whip
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      #62
      Originally posted by Calilloyd
      I wasn't being subtle. That was my counter for your "not so subtle " jab At questioning Bradley's heart when he's no where near a " Peck and jab" fighter. Don't dish out what you can't take in return. Ortiz is the last fighter you can claim has more heart than Bradley.

      I didn't say he has more heart than Bradley just saying he actually fought one of the other fighters that are being groomed to rule the division.

      All Tim has to do is fight one of these guys, win, and I'll be off his back. I think thats fair.

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      • championgee
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        #63
        He's a really good fighter/boxer. The problem I see is his style, and training methods. At 140 two years ago he was faster more crisp. He threw straight punches. Now he's throwing slow telegraph looping punches. The reason he has changed, I believe is because of weights. He's too tight in the bicep area. Also he is very easy to trick into brawling. I heard him say he knows now he can take punches at welterweight. He is very wrong. I like Bradley alot, but Pacman would KO him in six, and Mayweather would punish him in a TKO in 11 . He has fought alot of quality opponants, but he needs to stop chasing the money for now and clean up 140 if its possible. I believe Devon Alexander is king at 140. He has the look of a throw back fighter. He has speed, power, and defense. His neck and shoulders tell me he can take a better punch than bradley. He also showed smarts in the urango fight. He refuse to brawl, he stayed behind the jab and closed the show against a raging young champion bull.



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          #64
          Originally posted by BoxerDood
          Will you be able to say he's improved if he doesn't KO Kotelnik? I don't think so. Anything less than a KO will not impress me because unlike Khan at that point, Devon doesn't have a glass jaw and he's never been the type of person to hesitate exchanging or staying close, even if it means taking a punch. However I expect a lopsided UD (however I'd love to see another surprising KO because it'll shut Roach up).

          My point is, not everyone will look better in every fight. Especially when you're moving up in weight against the type of fighter you should stay away from. For example, Floyd destroyed his last opponent at 135, but did the chicken dance against his first opponent at 140 lol
          i bet you devon beat kotelnik better than khan, im going to go ahead and say he is going to stop him too.

          bradley did good against abregu but it wasn't amazing, and if he look like that against a fighter like abregu imagine how it would be against manny. thats all im saying

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          • sicko
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            #65
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            so what is he waiting for, clean out the division already. Thats all Im saying!
            uh...have you be in a coma or something? Bradley was going to fight Maidana but he pulled out with a fake injury...TWICE! Amir Khan is hiding behind Golden Boy Promotions he don't want to fight, Bradley moves up because he couldn't find a decent fight at 140, sure Alexander is willing to fight but that has potential to be a HUGE fight for Both fighters involved, why rush and do that fight now for CHEAP when they can take out Maidana and Khan and make that fight a even bigger pay day for both

            Bradley wants to clean out the division but the division doesn't want to be cleaned out, Bradley agreed to a 140 tournament, it was Khan that turned it down

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            • pistol whip
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              #66
              Originally posted by HARLEM AL
              Of course they are irrelevant now. He fought them when they were. who the f^ck has Mad fought. Also understand as fighters lose and get old new ones come in. Bradley is the champ at 140(no i dont give a f^ck if they got Pac there because he is never going to defend it and they should have been removed him from it).

              Pac beats the lineal champion and he should be removed ***ing wow!!! Just wow!!

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                #67
                Originally posted by championgee
                He's a really good fighter/boxer. The problem I see is his style, and training methods. At 140 two years ago he was faster more crisp. He threw straight punches. Now he's throwing slow telegraph looping punches. The reason he has changed, I believe is because of weights. He's too tight in the bicep area. Also he is very easy to trick into brawling. I heard him say he knows now he can take punches at welterweight. He is very wrong. I like Bradley alot, but Pacman would KO him in six, and Mayweather would punish him in a TKO in 11 . He has fought alot of quality opponants, but he needs to stop chasing the money for now and clean up 140 if its possible. I believe Devon Alexander is king at 140. He has the look of a throw back fighter. He has speed, power, and defense. His neck and shoulders tell me he can take a better punch than bradley. He also showed smarts in the urango fight. He refuse to brawl, he stayed behind the jab and closed the show against a raging young champion bull.

                How is Alexander King of 140. who has he fought. If anybody is over hyped its Alexander(who i think is a very good fighter).

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                • NesNY
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                  #68
                  as for Bradley fighting the best 140's...he's got what...Lamont Peterson and Holt?

                  Maidana should've got the SD/MD over Kotelnik (top 10 ring tv), he beat the piss out of Ortiz, and folded Cayo with a BODY shot.

                  Come on son. Puncher's chance? lol. He has a great chance against anyone who isn't an elite-level boxer/counterpuncher with power and elusiveness.

                  Bradley's mostly hype to me.
                  Last edited by NesNY; 07-21-2010, 12:09 PM.

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                  • HARLEM AL
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Pac beats the lineal champion and he should be removed ***ing wow!!! Just wow!!
                    Is he going to defend it? If not should he be allowed to keep it if he dont plan on defending it?


                    Also like i thought you couldnt dispute nothing else but you seen what i wrote about pac and went crazy.

                    Duke if you dont know nothing about boxing just quit while you ahead.

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                    • THE REED
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Pac beats the lineal champion and he should be removed ***ing wow!!! Just wow!!
                      Yeah........ 15 months ago.

                      Already has another fight planned at welterweight.

                      Which means even IF, after Margarito.. he chose to go back to Jr WW.

                      It would be 2 years until he fought at that weight and defended that title.


                      How long is a fighter entitled to his belt, before the active fighters fighting there are?

                      It surely isn't 2 years, I'll you that.

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