Why were the Floyd demands good this time?

[KickAzz]

Get a grip, it's all over ESPN: Floyd is a COWARD

I think pac knew floyd wasn't gonna fight him no matter what.

[VoodooChild]

Why couldn't you just leave it as that and seperate yourself from your personal attatchments with Manny? They were both wrong-it's really as simple as that-not as elaborate as you make it out.....and NEITHER guys are martyrs for this.

I'm not leaving it at that, things are not black and white and why can't you detach yourself from your hatred of Manny (or at least his fans). What Floyd did was so much worse than what Manny did.

[VoodooChild]

Catchweights-especially for titles are crap.I think we can both agree that it cheapens the victory.I hope you aren't one of those people who believes Manny should make the belt-holder succumb to his demands for the belts...

I agree with you there but I believe that we would have missed out on some great fights throughout the years without them.

[AFighter4U]

I think pac knew floyd wasn't gonna fight him no matter what.

I honestly don't think so. If Pac really did know floyd jr wouldn't fight him, then wouldn't it be logical to accept ALL Floyd jr's demands?

[VoodooChild]

No it was'nt for a belt. JMM was considered the challenger in the sense that he challenged Floyd to a welterweight fight.

No, it was Floyd that chose JMM and like Oscar did to Manny, he made him come up 2 weight divisions or the fight was off.

[Nevadefeated]

No, it was Floyd that chose JMM and like Oscar did to Manny, he made him come up 2 weight divisions or the fight was off.

Thats not true about Floyd vs JMM. Heres two different articles"In order to chase Manny Pacquiao for a third match, Marquez decided to move up into higher weight divisions. After his impressive lightweight run, he expressed that he wanted to fight Mayweather. Floyd accepted JMM’s challenge and came off a 21-month retirement that was announced before the Pacquiao vs Hatton bout (watch the Pacquiao vs Hatton Street Fighter video)."After knocking out Juan Diaz in the ninth round last night, world lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez decided to take a shot at current pound-for-pound ruler Manny Pacquiao by calling out Floyd Mayweather Jr., the semi-retired pound-for-pound king of old." Look it up.

[VoodooChild]

Thats not true about Floyd vs JMM. Heres two different articles"In order to chase Manny Pacquiao for a third match, Marquez decided to move up into higher weight divisions. After his impressive lightweight run, he expressed that he wanted to fight Mayweather. Floyd accepted JMM’s challenge and came off a 21-month retirement that was announced before the Pacquiao vs Hatton bout (watch the Pacquiao vs Hatton Street Fighter video)."After knocking out Juan Diaz in the ninth round last night, world lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez decided to take a shot at current pound-for-pound ruler Manny Pacquiao by calling out Floyd Mayweather Jr., the semi-retired pound-for-pound king of old." Look it up.

Everyone was calling out Floyd for his return fight for the payday, Nobody except for Oscar dictates terms to Money May. Do you think he would have come up to Welterweight for any other opponent?

[Nevadefeated]

Everyone was calling out Floyd for his return fight for the payday, Nobody except for Oscar dictates terms to Money May. Do you think he would have come up to Welterweight for any other opponent?

All I was pointing out to you is the fact that it was JMM that challenged Mayweather everything esle you mention does'nt even matter.Truth is greater than a lie period.

[Xeraser]

Action speaks louder than words. Floyd apologists are so gullible. If Floyd wanted to fight Pacquiao, he would have done so already. If you want something, you will find a way to get it. If you don't want anything, you will find many excuses to get away from it. Floyd doesn't want the fight. Maybe he's scared. History will tell you. When people want him to fight Margarito, Floyd said he's doesn't sell PPVs. When people want him to fight Cotto, Floyd said he lives too far in Puerto Rico so I am gonna retire. Now people want him to fight Pac, Pac is on PED I want a blood test. now Pacquiao said ok lets do it, Floyd said I want to spend time with my family. So the end justify the means, whether Pac agreed or not Floyd will run away but will never run out of excuses.

[damned1974]

I'm not leaving it at that, things are not black and white and why can't you detach yourself from your hatred of Manny (or at least his fans). What Floyd did was so much worse than what Manny did.

Hatred is a strong word....dislike,yes.I dislike most fanatical, obsessive followers of Manny's.Now it doesn't mean I dislike all of his "fans". Some at least try to be neutral (though they tend to be a minority on here).As for Manny personally-I haven't met the guy-I could care less-we have only seen the image sculpted version of what Arum has given us.Just listen to when he talks,he parrots Arum's "script"...The thing is-you haven't met him either,yet you rabidly and blindly consider him to be without criticism.Nobody is immune to the fan's skepticism,not Manny,not Floyd, not anyone...

Facts don't lie-they BOTH couldn't make weight-no matter how you spin it,you can choose your own spin on it,or twist it around to glamourize your cause,but it doesn't change the truth....the truth never minds stepping on a few toes...