One Rule Change, like MMA, Boxing would be different. Continue to fight when down...

[Home town hero]

no not if you are jumped because that doesnt constitute a fair fight. Once they make it a unfair fight your oponent is fair game. Its not training purposes ive been in countless fights and thats the way i fight and the majority of my opnonents fight. Unless they fight dirty or unfairly i fight like a gentleman. If me and somone dont get along and they wish to fight good luck to them. I will fight them fairly and they should do so aswell. My point is that boxing is a fair fight. Both boxers have the same rules the same everything its a fair fight so the fight should stay fair.

Boxing wasnt created for war that bull ****. Fighting was developed because of war. Fighting isnt boxing. Boxing was started because people wanted to be entertained and people wanted to make money through entertaining people. Hence boxing is a fair contest.

[Benny Leonard]

no not if you are jumped because that doesnt constitute a fair fight. Once they make it a unfair fight your oponent is fair game. Its not training purposes ive been in countless fights and thats the way i fight and the majority of my opnonents fight. Unless they fight dirty or unfairly i fight like a gentleman. If me and somone dont get along and they wish to fight good luck to them. I will fight them fairly and they should do so aswell. My point is that boxing is a fair fight. Both boxers have the same rules the same everything its a fair fight so the fight should stay fair.

Boxing wasnt created for war that bull ****. Fighting was developed because of war. Fighting isnt boxing. Boxing was started because people wanted to be entertained and people wanted to make money through entertaining people. Hence boxing is a fair contest.

One on One.

School-yard fight. Somebody calls you out. One on One.

You don't keep fighting until your opponent is finished?

Every second that goes by is one more second you are still in a fight. It's a reason why guys like Dempsey...especially Dempsey since he brought in his experience from actual fighting days away from the ring into play...and Tyson...fought fast to get the opponent out of there.

Boxing was started in ancient times to help prepare the soldier for WAR. That and a person who wants to protect his land and/or family.

WAR is a fight. Boxing was a more evolved, physical, way of fighting. Soldiers could learn how to box and wrestle. Pankration came about that way as well.

Today's boxing differs from ancient boxing.

Even today, many people found there way into boxing in order to protect themselves.

[Home town hero]

One on One.

School-yard fight. Somebody calls you out. One on One.

You don't keep fighting until your opponent is finished?

Every second that goes by is one more second you are still in a fight. It's a reason why guys like Dempsey...especially Dempsey since he brought in his experience from actual fighting days away from the ring into play...and Tyson...fought fast to get the opponent out of there.

Boxing was started in ancient times to help prepare the soldier for WAR. That and a person who wants to protect his land and/or family.

WAR is a fight. Boxing was a more evolved, physical, way of fighting.

Today's boxing differs from ancient boxing.

Even today, many people found there way into boxing in order to protect themselves.

yeah i keep fighting till my opponent doesnt want to carry on or is out cold. I draw the line at hitting on the ground though my opponent is undefended and round my way anyone who hits on the ground is known as a *****. They dont get any respect and are cowards in many peoples eyes. You can fight fast to get your opponent finished but you dont have to do it like a coward. Modern boxing that you see today is nothing like ancient boxing.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Unfair as far as what boxing was originally intended for. If you want to make such rules, fine...but keep that in training/sparring. Like in Roach's gym: If you get a guy hurt, don't finish him.

But in an actual fight, a fight that counts to prove who is better...Yes, I would think it is unfair to not be allowed to pound my opponent until he is completely out cold or the ref stops it. Just like I would find it unfair if I got into a fight on the street and somebody tries to stop me from further attacking my opponent because I should allow my attacker to regain his composure and possibly come back to kill me.


"Didn't do enough to finish the job?"
You stopped him from finishing the job.

Boxing as we know it today, is not a street fight or anything you keep referencing from the past. Boxing is a combat sport with rules and regulations. Both combatants know the rules going into a match. I don't understand why you keep saying its unfair. How is it unfair when both men know and agree to the rules before the contest begins. No one holds an advantage.

Definition of unfair:

1. Not just or evenhanded; biased
2. characterized by inequality or injustice
3. dishonest or unethical

[Danny Gunz]

This is actually a very interesting subject you have brought up, I never really thought about it.

But, my best reasoning for it is that boxing is just fighting rounded out and watered down to make it a competitive sport. So with the placement of this rule of the neutral corner and the standing 8 the fighters must realize the fight isnt over when they stun their opponent they must be able to continue fighting and finish their opponent. Likewise with the fighter that has been hurt he should be properly trained to continue fighting effectively after being hurt.

That is always why I always love a fighter that is a finisher.

[Benny Leonard]

yeah i keep fighting till my opponent doesnt want to carry on or is out cold. I draw the line at hitting on the ground though my opponent is undefended and round my way anyone who hits on the ground is known as a *****. They dont get any respect and are cowards in many peoples eyes. You can fight fast to get your opponent finished but you dont have to do it like a coward. Modern boxing that you see today is nothing like ancient boxing.

Yes, of course. As soon as the opponent looks like he is in no position to go on, you stop...well...unless this is an actual life-threatening attack where the attacker has some sort of weapon and if you have him in such a position, you may want to make sure he isn't getting up to attack you from behind. Either way, your purpose is to finish off the threat in order to make sure your health/life is safe.

Sucker-punching is for ******* to. I think those ****ers should be shot. Especially the ones that act like they are some big hot **** after doing it. And all those that respect that crap should be pistol whipped.


True, but may point was still to say our current way of doing things isn't exactly the best way to judge who is the better of the two had this been a fight of what the original purpose was intended for...as far as a person learning how to box in order to protect himself from the harm that is coming his way.

What bothers me is watching these fighters go down hurt, being allowed to recover from outside interruption {ref}, then coming back to win at some point...and then going around jumping for joy that they are the better of the two.

Of course, I'm also for it as well for entertainment purpose since it can prolong a fight and make for an exciting war. But I would always wonder "what would have been if...."

[Benny Leonard]

Boxing as we know it today, is not a street fight or anything you keep referencing from the past. Boxing is a combat sport with rules and regulations. Both combatants know the rules going into a match. I don't understand why you keep saying its unfair. How is it unfair when both men know and agree to the rules before the contest begins. No one holds an advantage.

Definition of unfair:

1. Not just or evenhanded; biased
2. characterized by inequality or injustice
3. dishonest or unethical

It's fair within the current rules but unfair to the original intent of boxing and how it used to be. You are still giving the person time to recover when he wouldn't have had it if this were an outside of the ring fight between two guys brawling it out.

When I bring up MMA, and I know people get pissy about it...but they need to stop and think of what the point is...and that is to say that MMA have one thing more real towards simulating an actual event/fight than boxing. When you have your opponent hurt, you continue on until you finish it without interruption. Of course, rounds are an interruption but we can get to that later if you want.

Either way, it's only one point to be made.

I understand the rules. Even ancient boxing had rules even though they were fewer than today.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Would soccer be better if the attacking team could just repeatedly smash the ball into the net without the game stopping? (the correct answer is 'no, it would be ****ing rubbish', BTW)

Boxing is the Sweet Science for a reason - beating a man while he's down isn't part of that.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

It's fair within the current rules but unfair to the original intent of boxing and how it used to be. You are still giving the person time to recover when he wouldn't have had it if this were an outside of the ring fight between two guys brawling it out.

When I bring up MMA, and I know people get pissy about it...but they need to stop and think of what the point is...and that is to say that MMA have one thing more real towards simulating an actual event/fight than boxing. When you have your opponent hurt, you continue on until you finish it without interruption. Of course, rounds are an interruption but we can get to that later if you want.

Either way, it's only one point to be made.

I understand the rules. Even ancient boxing had rules even though they were fewer than today.

The highlighted is all I care about. To me it doesn't matter how people compete out of the ring or how boxing was originally intended. I'm not looking for realism. I enjoy the sport the way it is.

I have nothing against MMA, I just don't think it's right to hit a man when he's down. If you think boxing needs a few tweaks, fine. I'm not knocking it, it's your opinion, I understand. My main issue was when you said it was unfair not to be able to attack a downed opponent.

[tesla_power]

Boxing like MMA even fencing is only meant to resemble a real fight. Anyways, the rule to me is ok. Boxing IMO is a stand up sport. Don't punch when your opponent is down makes perfect sense. I also think the rules for MMA is ok considering some fighters there are grapplers.