So James Toney is a Legend??

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  • j.one
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    #31
    Originally posted by braddman
    What does a boxing coach have to do with a person he trains taking steroids? So if my buddy tells me I have to do ******* it's his fault for me taking it? That is ridiculous man. Get a new arguement.

    That's as bad as blaming Margarito's coach for something Margarito clearly knew was wrong, and did it anyway.
    No but if you did the ******* while in his company it would come as no surprise based on the company your keeping, who was promoting James at that time?

    Look at Lowe he drinks and gets in bar fights with Pavlik himself and your saying that theres no connection to the coach and his performance?

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      #32
      Originally posted by j.one
      No but if you did the ******* while in his company it would come as no surprise based on the company your keeping, who was promoting James at that time?
      That's your arguement? Seriously? So Freddie Roach was doing Steroids at the time, and that's why James Toney did them, because he was in his company.

      In fact, Freddie Roach suggests all his boxers take steroids, even the ones who are winning without taking them.

      Listen to yourself man. That's one pathetic arguement.

      THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION BETWEEN JAMES TESTING POSITIVE FOR STEROIDS AND THE TRAINER HE HAD AT THE TIME SUPPLYING THEM.

      Prove otherwise.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #33
        Originally posted by Manglerito
        I'm glad I'm not alone.
        At the end of the day you have what skills and ability you have, I doubt PEDs really make much if any difference at all in the results of most fights, I know some ppl disagree and think they can turn you into superman but ****'m.

        Boxing is not like Olympic foot races where the athletes are so evenly matched in actual competition and the difference between winners and losers is fractions of seconds.

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        • Boxing Scene
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          #34
          I tend not to get involved in these types of discussions because you can't persuade someone who has an idea in his head, and if you think James took Steroids because Freddie Roach made him, awesome.

          Now back to normal business.

          Now let's throw some reality out there. James is a horrible heavyweight, has almost no knockouts at that weight, and will never be a great heavyweight no matter how much he takes.

          Was he great at lower weights? Damn straight.

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          • j.one
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            #35
            Originally posted by braddman
            That's your arguement? Seriously? So Freddie Roach was doing Steroids at the time, and that's why James Toney did them, because he was in his company.

            In fact, Freddie Roach suggests all his boxers take steroids, even the ones who are winning without taking them.

            Listen to yourself man. That's one pathetic arguement.

            THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION BETWEEN JAMES TESTING POSITIVE FOR STEROIDS AND THE TRAINER HE HAD AT THE TIME SUPPLYING THEM.

            Prove otherwise.
            Prove roach wasn't involved...he was the trainer at the time, also im not at all saying james took them unknowingly, it's just slightly ironic that he gets caught with Roach and nobody else. While roach latest guy outright refuses testing like a normal human being. I'm outright insinuating that Roach is suspect period.

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              #36
              Originally posted by j.one
              Prove roach wasn't involved...he was the trainer at the time, also im not at all saying james took them unknowingly, it's just slightly ironic that he gets caught with Roach and nobody else. While roach latest guy outright refuses testing like a normal human being. I'm outright insinuating that Roach is suspect period.
              Roach is a suspect in your mind, and that's all. Innocent until proven guilty.

              If you know what Irony is, then you know that isn't irony. Irony is demanding drug testing then testing positive. That would be irony.

              Stick to your guns, and when you prove Roach was involved, PM me.

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              • Toney Loc
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                #37
                For the record, Toney's team claim Toney tested positive because of a bicep injury they needed to heal faster. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt....

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Manglerito
                  Burger King
                  hahahahahahaha

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                  • Kambumbo
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                    #39
                    Margarito is a cheater

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                      #40
                      Margarito is a God

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