Who is the best counter puncher off all time???

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  • Bad Intentions
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    #1

    Who is the best counter puncher off all time???

    I wouldnt kno where to start...Any one have any clue who might be up there in the top 5 or so counter punchers??
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    Curry

    Curry Was An Awesome Counter Puncher... The Counter Left Hook He Hit Mccrory With Was One Of Th Egreat Single Punches Of All Time... Perfectly Planned And Excecuted

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    • Parodius
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      I have to go with Toney & Mayweather from the fighter that I've seen. Also Hopkin can be real good with his counter punches.

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      • realheavyhands
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        archie moore

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        • oldgringo
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          #5
          Are we talking like pure counter punchers here? Or just in general...?

          Ray Robinson
          Benny Leonard
          Ezzard Charles
          Alexis Arguello
          James Toney
          Pernell Whitaker
          Floyd Patterson
          Joe Louis


          All excellent counter punchers and used their opponents mistakes to find angles for the clean counters. Louis and Charles in particular were known to be good combination counter punchers. Guys like Arguello and Toney were good at waiting for opponents to create an opening and then they'd land the sharp counter right hands in return. Leonard and Whitaker used defense to make their opponents overextend themselves so that they could counter and move out just to set up and repeat.

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          • Parodius
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            #6
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            Are we talking like pure counter punchers here? Or just in general...?

            Ray Robinson
            Benny Leonard
            Ezzard Charles
            Alexis Arguello
            James Toney
            Pernell Whitaker
            Floyd Patterson
            Joe Louis


            All excellent counter punchers and used their opponents mistakes to find angles for the clean counters. Louis and Charles in particular were known to be good combination counter punchers. Guys like Arguello and Toney were good at waiting for opponents to create an opening and then they'd land the sharp counter right hands in return. Leonard and Whitaker used defense to make their opponents overextend themselves so that they could counter and move out just to set up and repeat.
            Yea but I bid you haven't seen half of those guys, I could've mentioned some of those guys, but I went with boxers that I've seen. Whitaker is one of the greatest fighters of all time in my opinion, but his counter punching was not in the same level as Toney or Mayweather. Whitaker was just amazing with his feet & speed. I still don't think anyone would've beaten Whitaker in his prime. He was that good, he got robbed like 3 times to guys like Oscar, Rameriz & Chavez. he clearly won those fights. But I don't think he was one of the greatest counter puncher that I've seen.

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            • czars_salad
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              #7
              Originally posted by Parodius
              I have to go with Toney & Mayweather from the fighter that I've seen. Also Hopkin can be real good with his counter punches.
              I AGREE WITH HOPKINS

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              • Diablo
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                #8
                Originally posted by oldgringo
                Are we talking like pure counter punchers here? Or just in general...?

                Ray Robinson
                Benny Leonard
                Ezzard Charles
                Alexis Arguello
                James Toney
                Pernell Whitaker
                Floyd Patterson
                Joe Louis


                All excellent counter punchers and used their opponents mistakes to find angles for the clean counters. Louis and Charles in particular were known to be good combination counter punchers. Guys like Arguello and Toney were good at waiting for opponents to create an opening and then they'd land the sharp counter right hands in return. Leonard and Whitaker used defense to make their opponents overextend themselves so that they could counter and move out just to set up and repeat.
                good post.

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #9
                  Don't forget about RJJ.

                  With his speed and at the top of his game he could counter and it was rare the opponent would even begin to see it coming.

                  Archie Moore was a great counter puncher.

                  So was Ricardo Lopez...

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Parodius
                    Yea but I bid you haven't seen half of those guys, I could've mentioned some of those guys, but I went with boxers that I've seen. Whitaker is one of the greatest fighters of all time in my opinion, but his counter punching was not in the same level as Toney or Mayweather. Whitaker was just amazing with his feet & speed. I still don't think anyone would've beaten Whitaker in his prime. He was that good, he got robbed like 3 times to guys like Oscar, Rameriz & Chavez. he clearly won those fights. But I don't think he was one of the greatest counter puncher that I've seen.

                    Whitakers my favorite fighter ever by a mile. Toney is my second favorite fighter ever. I've been into this sport for 16 years of my life and I've seen plenty of all of those guys I named outside of Leonard really, so don't speak on things you don't know.

                    I've seen Whitaker in fights with Mayweather, Ramirez I, Lomeli, Nazario, Nelson, Paez from 135....from 147 I've seen Chavez, McGirt x2, Cardona, parts of Rivera I&II, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Hurtado...and I saw him against JC Vazquez for his title in his 4th weight class. I've seen a lot more of him than you have, and the man was a great counterpuncher, who used his footwork and upperbody defense to exploit his opponents balance and angles. Maybe not the greatest ever, but he definitely comes to mind as being pretty damned good.

                    What did you read my post and automatically think you needed to try and prove yourself with the whole, "oh yeah well I could have named those other guys too blah blah" thing?

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