A fight with Margarito would do nothing for Pac's legacy

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  • Spacey1991
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    #31
    Originally posted by Phenom
    Pac will be fighting for a vacant WBC belt what an amazing boxer he is winning vacant and catchweight belts
    Win a vacant belt and then criticise.

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    • Pacquiao'd
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      #32
      haha, look at the *******s playing up margacheato. when alot of you were saying a fight with marg or cotto is ****ed up

      *******s. the biggest flip floppers ever

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      • -PANDA-
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        #33
        Originally posted by Saucy Jacky
        Beating Tony is huge for Pac. Don't listen to these morons.

        He was a top 5 WW for almost 10 years AND 3 TIME WW CHAMPION. One loss shouldn't derail his status as a top fighter.
        panda will quote this after pacquiao has beat up a walking heavybag in margarito come november

        also margarito's record in his 5 fights pre-suspension was: 3-2, thats with the great golden johnson win and without the ******ic robert garcia win

        neither david diaz, hatton, odlh or cotto had a record like that yet tony gets a chance because poppa bob is seeing dollar signs

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        • Jack Napier
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          #34
          Originally posted by Saucy Jacky
          Beating Tony is huge for Pac. Don't listen to these morons.

          He was a top 5 WW for almost 10 years AND 3 TIME WW CHAMPION. One loss shouldn't derail his status as a top fighter.

          Plus its another guy that Fraud ducked.
          I agree it's a good win for Pac
          and it is a guy Floyd ducked
          tough, bigger guy and good name to add to the resume
          just isn't a "legacy" fight Jacky

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          • Phenom
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            #35
            Originally posted by Spacey1991
            Win a vacant belt and then criticise.
            you know what vacant means right

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              #36
              Originally posted by -PANDA-
              his legacy is fine and to be clear panda is not placing any questionmarks next to pacquiao's opponents but it cant be denied that since this is for a paper title against a guy with 6 legit losses and a questionable reputation this will hurt pac's legacy. why would anyone give a cheater a shot at a career high payday against the world's #1 fighter, even if this is for an unprecedented 8th division title how would that go down in the history books. thats my concern



              panda was talking about why margarito deserved a spot not why he actually got it, but good post and info none the less

              Well he did beat Garcia to win an international belt. He has one of the 3-4 regional belts making him a top 5 candidate and seeing that the WBC has exhausted all the other options, I have no problems with them having Margarito ranked the way he is. I mean who else should be ranked as the number one contender considered those above him decided to pass up the opportunity to fill the vacancy.

              I can see an argument for Ryan Rhodes and I know some UK boxing fans were upset at Tony being rated higher, but again this is the only person I can see anyone making a case for.
              Last edited by Khalid X; 07-17-2010, 07:27 PM.

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              • Dick Buffman
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                #37
                Originally posted by -PANDA-
                panda will quote this after pacquiao has beat up a walking heavybag in margarito come november

                also margarito's record in his 5 fights pre-suspension was: 3-2, thats with the great golden johnson win and without the ******ic robert garcia win

                neither david diaz, hatton, odlh or cotto had a record like that yet tony gets a chance because poppa bob is seeing dollar signs
                the 2 losses was a close fight loss to Williams, and a loss to Shane a future hall of famer.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jack Napier
                  I agree it's a good win for Pac
                  and it is a guy Floyd ducked
                  tough, bigger guy and good name to add to the resume
                  just isn't a "legacy" fight Jacky
                  That "legacy" ****'s overplayed.

                  Look at Mayweathers record and tell me how many "legacy" fights he has.

                  None.

                  Thats a term invented by ESPN to better sell bull**** fights. Legacies are made by fighting the best. Floyd never has.

                  I would argue, he's not even worthy of a fight with Pac.

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                  • Mr. Mark
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                    #39
                    As a huge Pacfan myself, I can't seem to get enthused about his fight with Margarito or Cotto.

                    Although Pac is merely doing as he's told, I'm guilty of wanting him to "politely" tell Bob Arum to go take a hike.

                    Manny has the potential to become "The Greatest of All-Time," but with Arum preventing him from taking on Paul Williams and those at 140 (such as Bradley, Alexander, Maidana and Khan) after being ducked yet again by Floyd, it will without a doubt leave a question mark hanging at the end of Manny's career if he so chooses to take on Margarito or Cotto, and then retire.

                    Though I respect Manny as a Christian Brother and as a person of character who also possesses inhuman-like talent, I will no longer be able to say that he was one of "The Greatest" if he so chooses to retire w/ out taking on Williams, Alexander, Maidana and/ or Khan.

                    Paul Williams, Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Maidana and Khan have been receiving more than enough media-attention to create more than enough sales if one of them were to contend with Manny.

                    As a matter of fact, I believe Paul Williams, Bradley and Khan have received more "positive" attention from the media in terms of their greatness than Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto has in the last few months.

                    If Manny "wants" to be Great, then he has to ditch TR.

                    On the other hand, I can see where Manny's coming from in regards to his loyalty.

                    So the real question is, what's more important to Manny Pacquiao? His Legacy or his Loyalty to the man who shaped his career.

                    As a selfish boxing fan who wants to see him excel, I'm guilty of wanting him to dump TR.

                    But as a Christian, I would have to say that Loyalty and respect are more important than any kind of recognition that the world perceives as Great.

                    Then again, everyone knows that Arum is milking Manny.

                    So, though I can understand where Manny's coming from in terms of his decision making, I would not want to be in his shoes right now.

                    However, I'm confident that God has helped him with his decision-making.

                    Therefore, though I don't completely understand what's going on, I'll just just have to trust that God is in control and that my understanding is of no value in comparison to Gods plan.

                    Peace

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                    • qwerty07
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                      #40
                      Fighting a lightweight at welterweight is what does nothing to your legacy.

                      a 154-lb title would mean history, b*tches!

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