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  • #21
    Floyd is officially

    I told yall so!!!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
      So in other words. Pac only wants Top Rank guys who wont pose a threat.
      put Margarito in the ring with Bradley and see what happens.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Mr. Copeland View Post
        put Margarito in the ring with Bradley and see what happens.
        Margarito gets outboxed, I really am tired of people overlookin' Bradley. Margarito isn't and never was that good. We all watched Cotto outbox him for the most part, difference is Bradley isn't gonna get touched as much and neither is he gonna gass. Bradley is well conditioned and actually goes the full 12 on very high activity.

        Also, lets say for example Margarito could beat the crap out of Bradley (Which I highly doubt)...does that actually mean Margarito would pose a bigger threat to Pacquiao? Come on man, be real. You should know better...
        Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 07-17-2010, 05:43 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Natedatpkid View Post
          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AH!!

          I lost my ****!

          But you see this is why Timothy Bradley needs to just fight Khan & Alexander so he can build a resume strong enough so that he can even call out Pacman. He resume has some decent people but nobody big. So I understand that even though I know Bradley wants those fights too they just all need to take their tampons out and man up.

          I see no reason why they couldn't atleast act like a warrior and at least keep him on the "consideration side" so it doesn't look like your afraid of him. But Williams is so damn big I wouldn't blame him either haha. Not to mention he throw like hundreds of times a round. But I think it's time for Williams to get the big fights like this though. He punished Winky Wright and went to hell and back with Sergio Martinez. I think he deserves a big fight like Martinez rematch, Kelly Pavlik, and should at least be mentioned in the Mayweather & Pacman sweepstakes. This is the time in his career where he gots to show how good he actually is because he made doubters after that crazy close decision over Martinez. I think his main targets should be Martinez, Margarito, or Cotto. Because obviously Pac or May wont pick him to fight. So he should fight one of those 3 guys to stand right behind Pac & Floyd to be next in line. Kelly Pavlik if he can't get any of those guys.
          Bro these dudes are just trolling for the hell of it. I dislike Floyd but Floyd has put in work by beating guys like Corrales, Hernandez, Castillo, and others. Pacquiao has paid his dues by fighting guys like Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Hussein, Ledbawa, and others.

          I think it's kinda disrespectful for a guy, who hasn't put in the type of work that those two have, to ask for a fight....especially when they got opportunties right in front of them that will get them in a position to ask for a mega fight like that.

          Bradley needs to handle either Maidana, Khan or Alexander...especially the latter since Devon is willing to face him. I just can't see a guy like Bradley, who hasn't paid his dues, asking for a fight against either Floyd or Manny and getting a serious response back from those two.

          I'm sure if anyone remember this, but this reminds me of when Lenny Cook was in highschool, and Kobe was giving a speech to him and several other highschool all-stars. Lenny Cook called out Kobe and Kobe told him "put in the work, get in the league first, and I won't have any problems giving you 50[points]"

          In similar fashion, If Bradley beats either of those guys at 140, then he can get it as well.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Akira Fudo View Post
            Margarito gets outboxed, I really am tired of people overlookin' Bradley. Margarito isn't and never was that good. We all watched Cotto outbox him for the must part, difference is Bradley isn't gonna get touched as much and neither is he gonna gass. Bradley is well conditioned and actually goes the full 12 on very high activity.

            Also, lets say for example Margarito could beat the crap out of Bradley (Which I highly doubt)...does that actually mean Margarito would pose a bigger threat to Pacquiao? Come on man, be real. You should know better...
            I'm not overlooking Bradley because what I see is a young talented fighter who is still developing and will be a force in the future. The problem I have is that I feel he needs to put in the work that all the other great fighters like Pacquiao, Mayweather and others have. As far as Margarito vs Bradley, Margarito beat him, and probably in decisive matter. I don't see anything in Bradleys game right now that will keep Margarito off of him. Don't get fooled by what Shane did, because 1. Bradley doesn't have the power to back up Tony and 2. Bradley doesn't have the strength to clinch and push Margarito around like Shane did.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Mr. Copeland View Post
              I'm not overlooking Bradley because what I see is a young talented fighter who is still developing and will be a force in the future. The problem I have is that I feel he needs to put in the work that all the other great fighters like Pacquiao, Mayweather and others have. As far as Margarito vs Bradley, Margarito beat him, and probably in decisive matter. I don't see anything in Bradleys game right now that will keep Margarito off of him. Don't get fooled by what Shane did, because 1. Bradley doesn't have the power to back up Tony and 2. Bradley doesn't have the strength to clinch and push Margarito around like Shane did.
              Man, I've never been a believer of "So and so doesn't have the power to keep so and so off". Bradley has the legs and overall quickness to box circles around Margarito. I have nothing but respect for Cotto but he does break down mentally when the pressure is applied and I've seen this. Bradley doesn't fold under pressure. But to move on...

              Since we're talking about Paul Williams and Martinez, what exactly do you mean "They haven't done enough"?. Paul Williams beat Margarito, beat Quintana, faught a very close competitive fight with Martinez (Which I scored a draw). Martinez has beaten Cintron, gave Paul Williams a good fight and dominated Pavlik. Also, who has a better resume at 140 then Bradley?
              Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 07-17-2010, 06:03 AM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Akira Fudo View Post
                Man, I've never been a believer of "So and so doesn't have the power to keep so and so off". Bradley has the legs and overall quickness to box circles around Margarito. I have nothing but respect for Cotto but he does break down mentally when the pressure is applied and I've seen this. Bradley doesn't fold under pressure. But to move on...

                Since we're talking about Paul Williams and Martinez, what exactly do you mean "They haven't done enough"?. Paul Williams beat Margarito, beat Quintana, faught a very close competitive fight with Martinez (Which I scored a draw). Martinez has beaten Cintron, gave Paul Williams a good fight and dominated Pavlik. Also, who has a better resume at 140 then Bradley?
                I didn't say Williams or Martinez haven't done enough, I'm not sure where you are getting that from? I did say that neither have a belt or in in line for one, which is why it makes no sense for Pacquiao to face either at 154. Pacquiao has no business at that weight class and if he does fight there It will only be for a belt. You don't go up that high with all that risk and no reward.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Mr. Copeland View Post
                  I didn't say Williams or Martinez haven't done enough, I'm not sure where you are getting that from? I did say that neither have a belt or in in line for one, which is why it makes no sense for Pacquiao to face either at 154. Pacquiao has no business at that weight class and if he does fight there It will only be for a belt. You don't go up that high with all that risk and no reward.
                  He would gain more respect from beating Paul Williams/ Martinez as oppose to Margarito or Cotto. Instead he's trying to face off against opponents who pose no threat, and on top of that ease his way to history.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BritishBoxing92 View Post
                    i knew it...may/pac will never happen....well cong**** floyd i have officially lost all my respect for you.....anyways Pacs next opponents could be Williams, Margarito etc
                    Did you even bother reading the article? Bob Arum just specifically said, that Pac will NOT be fighting Paul Williams next.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                      So in other words. Pac only wants Top Rank guys who wont pose a threat.
                      And floyd only fights golden boy fighters who don't pose a threat

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