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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mr Bigglesworth
    The only thing absurd is that this kid is actually a middle weight contender i mean he hasnt even fought a real middle weight yet and a 154lbs light hitter in ishe almost knocked him out! This kid kid will be koed by any real middle contender.
    I thought Ishe looked bigger.

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    • Mr Bigglesworth
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      #12
      Originally posted by Akira Fudo
      I thought Ishe looked bigger.
      Size doesnt matter as long as you can hang with the big boys. Just ask pacman.

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      • Heru
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        #13
        Originally posted by Mr Bigglesworth
        The only thing absurd is that this kid is actually a middle weight contender i mean he hasnt even fought a real middle weight yet and a 154lbs light hitter in ishe almost knocked him out! This kid kid will be koed by any real middle contender.
        Danny Jacobs is fighting for a title in his next fight and will probably end up winning it by beating one of the better middleweights in the world.

        Don't know if you actually know this... but people actually continue growing when they age.

        Manny Pacquiao can't make featherweight anymore, Floyd Mayweather can't make 140 anymore let alone 130 anymore. Ishe looked pretty big in there and he said it in his blog that he learned from being in camp with Floyd and that this was his best training camp ever.

        Even while getting hit with low blows Guerrero still won 2-6 clearly and made the last 2 rounds tossup. 160 is garbage though, **** contender status, Fernando would stop Sebastian Sylvester and decision Felix Sturm right now.

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        • Mr Bigglesworth
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          #14
          Originally posted by QUELOQUE
          Danny Jacobs is fighting for a title in his next fight and will probably end up winning it by beating one of the better middleweights in the world.

          Don't know if you actually know this... but people actually continue growing when they age.

          Manny Pacquiao can't make featherweight anymore, Floyd Mayweather can't make 140 anymore let alone 130 anymore. Ishe looked pretty big in there and he said it in his blog that he learned from being in camp with Floyd and that this was his best training camp ever.

          Even while getting hit with low blows Guerrero still won 2-6 clearly and made the last 2 rounds tossup. 160 is garbage though, **** contender status, Fernando would stop Sebastian Sylvester and decision Felix Sturm right now.
          Danny jacobs vs Dmitry pirog is a 50/50 fight anymore than that is just plain bias either way. Danny is a true middle weight and a much better boxer than fernando guerrero. And please dont make laugh, sturm and sylvester would both spank this kid they are world champs and not ishe smith who seems never to have quite enough to get over the line although he gave fernando hell even flooring him.
          I think my points are vaild on guerrero and time will tell.
          Last edited by Mr Bigglesworth; 07-17-2010, 03:32 AM.

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          • lopez36
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            #15
            chavez vs guerrero in 2011

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            • Heru
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              #16
              Originally posted by Mr Bigglesworth
              Danny jacobs vs Dmitry pirog is a 50/50 fight anymore than that is just plain bias either way. Danny is a true middle weight and a much better boxer than fernando guerrero. And please dont make laugh, sturm and sylvester would both spank this kid they are world champs and not ishe smith who seems never quite get over the line although he gave fernando hell even flooring him.
              I think my points are vaild on guerrero and time will tell.
              What points? The only point you made was you think any middleweight contender would knock Guerrero out. And that's an opinion based on your observation at best, there's no validity too it. Guerrero has yet to be knocked out.

              Sylvester would get overwhelmed because he's a subpar alphabet titleholder masquerading as a world champion. Sturm's shell defense style would get decisioned pretty easy by the sheer volume of Guerrero's punches. Jacobs-Pirog is a 50/50 fight that Danny Jacobs will win based on style and superior athleticism. Either way, Smith is the best win on Jacobs' ledger to date.

              All those hip/leg shots and low blows will be discounted, so by all means count Guerrero out. I know what I saw and I think I know how to gauge what I saw of Guerrero tonight better than most, so I will trust my eyes and knowledge without second guessing myself about it. Time is the only thing that will tell with certainty.

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              • Mr Bigglesworth
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                #17
                Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                What points? The only point you made was you think any middleweight contender would knock Guerrero out. And that's an opinion based on your observation at best, there's no validity too it. Guerrero has yet to be knocked out.

                Sylvester would get overwhelmed because he's a subpar alphabet titleholder masquerading as a world champion. Sturm's shell defense style would get decisioned pretty easy by the sheer volume of Guerrero's punches. Jacobs-Pirog is a 50/50 fight that Danny Jacobs will win based on style and superior athleticism. Either way, Smith is the best win on Jacobs' ledger to date.

                All those hip/leg shots and low blows will be discounted, so by all means count Guerrero out. I know what I saw and I think I know how to gauge what I saw of Guerrero tonight better than most, so I will trust my eyes and knowledge without second guessing myself about it. Time is the only thing that will tell with certainty.
                Are you from america by any chance? Any if pirog wins i will be back to post on your profile to let you know about american bias clouding your judgement.bye.
                Last edited by Mr Bigglesworth; 07-17-2010, 03:58 AM.

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                • Heru
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mr Bigglesworth
                  Are you from america by any chance? Any if pirog wins i will be back to post on your profile to let you know about american bias clouding your judgement.bye.
                  No, I'm not from America. Judging by the styles and attributes, I see Jacobs winning that fight. I've seen both of them fight and although Pirog is good, I think Jacobs style won't suit him, especially when Jacobs gets on his toes to box. I try hard not to let bias cloud my judgment since a few months back... and it's suited me well.
                  Last edited by Heru; 07-17-2010, 04:16 AM.

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                  • Mikhnienko
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                    Danny Jacobs is fighting for a title in his next fight and will probably end up winning it by beating one of the better middleweights in the world.

                    Don't know if you actually know this... but people actually continue growing when they age.
                    Manny Pacquiao can't make featherweight anymore, Floyd Mayweather can't make 140 anymore let alone 130 anymore. Ishe looked pretty big in there and he said it in his blog that he learned from being in camp with Floyd and that this was his best training camp ever.

                    Even while getting hit with low blows Guerrero still won 2-6 clearly and made the last 2 rounds tossup. 160 is garbage though, **** contender status, Fernando would stop Sebastian Sylvester and decision Felix Sturm right now.
                    I agree with the other poster, 50/50. Also Guerrero is 5'9 that isn't changing, he's also 27 so not much filling out to do.
                    Pirog Korobov Golovkin 5'11,
                    Jacobs 6'2
                    They all hit alot harder than Smith and Golovkin and Lemieux hit like terminators.
                    Last edited by Mikhnienko; 07-17-2010, 08:07 AM.

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                      Man, Ishe can't catch a break can he!? I like the dude but he keeps losing all his significant fights.
                      He needs a better promoter.

                      I scored the fight 95-93 for Ishe Smith. Guerrero received some home cooking.

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