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  • Tha_Greatest
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    #21
    Morales is greater,hes beaten tougher competition like DanielZaragosa, Injin Chi,Wayne Mc Collough in prime, Kevin Kelley in prime,Jesus Chavez,Carlos Hernandez, while beating the opposition Marco got whupped by,Morales has proven in their first fight with Barrera he can also beat Barrera,Morales has a clear victory in many peoples opinion vs barrera in their second fight ,Barrera barely edged out a fat Morales in their third fight.Barrera is a fighter whos real rise to glory came against an overated Hamed.

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    • oldgringo
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      #22
      36-0 at 122. Has fought and beaten better competition (arguably)

      Fights top notch comp all of the time and never avoids a big fight.

      Has only ever lost to Barrera, both times were close, and their second fight was very controversial.

      He's never been knocked down and has one of the best chins ever seen at lighter weights.

      Barrera has been dominated and KOed on more than one occasion...Morales hasn't.

      Erik is a more versatile fighter. He can take the lead and box using his range, he can sit back and counter punch beautifully, or he can go to war whenever he feels like it.

      He could potentially be the first Mexican 4 class world champ at lighter weights. He is ambitious and it seems like everyone else is chasing him up the ranks.

      He is fearless and NEVER puts on a bad show....he has a heart the size of Mexico.



      This^^^ was my response to a similar question in another thread. I think Morales has more left in the tank than does Barrera and is much more ambitious. When all is said and done Morales will have the better legacy. As it is hes probably one of the 3 greatest 122 pounders ever. Morales can box/brawl/counterpunch/younameit and that is what will help him succeed at higher weights with more dangerous punchers. I don't see Barrera even having a chance against a fighter like Juan Lazcano, Julio Diaz, Acelino Freitas, Castillo or Corrales...
      Last edited by oldgringo; 07-10-2005, 06:48 PM.

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      • Sir_Jose
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        #23
        Originally posted by sisforshaq
        These two future Hall of Fame fighters both have awsome legacys and have beaten top competion. With three fantasic fights between them they have created one of the best trilogys in boxing today. But my question is.. When its all said and done who is going to be remembered as the greater figher?

        Morales will be remembered as the greater fighter. MAB is just a bad match up for him. There resumes aren't even really close Morales has fought and beaten a much higher level of oposition.

        Dont forget MAB has also also had his ass handed to him by Junior Jones2x and Pac-Man two guys Morales beat.

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        • Memorex
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          #24
          morales at the end of his career will have a better legacy. erik has beaten tougher competition and to me is a better fighter. erik lost 2 fights to barrera because he has so much hatred towards him , that he loses his cool , 4gets about his boxing abilities and goes nuts.

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #25
            Originally posted by elveiel
            Maybe it because Barrera bores me, i think Morales is more aggressive and thats very important when i score a fight. all the fights were really close but i think Morales was slighty more effective.

            EDIT: i score effective aggression highly, not just aggression.
            You are a complete bias English fan iffrom Manchester since you dont give Barrera any credit vs Hamed. Hamed is overated as can be, He has never beaten a top notch elite fighter and when he did, he was scared to death and had the ref protecting him during their fight , lets not forget the fight was in England

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            • oldgringo
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              #26
              Hamed beat:

              Johnson
              Kelley
              Soto
              Medina
              Molina
              Ingle
              Vazquez
              Bungu
              McCullough

              Like him or not he was a damn good fighter and beat a lot of very good 122/126 pounders.

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              • sisforshaq
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                #27
                Originally posted by J.M.Marquez
                You are a complete bias English fan iffrom Manchester since you dont give Barrera any credit vs Hamed. Hamed is overated as can be, He has never beaten a top notch elite fighter and when he did, he was scared to death and had the ref protecting him during their fight , lets not forget the fight was in England
                I dont know about that being totally true. Hamed did beat some good fighters over his career. Kevin Kelley, Wayne McCullough and Paul Ingle are just the ones I can remmeber off the top of my head. Im pretty sure his resume has some other good fighters on it.

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                • Run
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by elveiel
                  Maybe it because Barrera bores me, i think Morales is more aggressive and thats very important when i score a fight. all the fights were really close but i think Morales was slighty more effective.

                  EDIT: i score effective aggression highly, not just aggression.
                  Are you joking eleviel? Barrera is the agressor in most of his fights. Morales backs up and uses the jab. You might be confusing me with this "effective agression" thing.



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                  • sisforshaq
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    Hamed beat:

                    Johnson
                    Kelley
                    Soto
                    Medina
                    Molina
                    Ingle
                    Vazquez
                    Bungu
                    McCullough

                    Like him or not he was a damn good fighter and beat a lot of very good 122/126 pounders.
                    Well thanks to Gringo who has a better memory than I do, theres the list. But we both were getting at the same point.

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                    • Run
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by J.M.Marquez
                      , He has never beaten a top notch elite fighter
                      I dont know what you smoked, or why it affected you so much.



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