BERNABE CONCEPTION= Manny Pacquiao w/o Special Blended “Power Shakes”??

[dj Ramos]

Conception tried to mimic pacquiao and failed mersibly...conception did same footwork as pac, held hands the same way pacquiao does and mostly...lunges in facing down like pacquiao USE to do...when u saw conception lungeing in his punchs it looks like the pacquiao that fought barrera. Only thing that was missing was after he got punched he didn't clap his hands like pacquiao does...but overall TC I believe you are on point

[led]

Flaws in his offense? Like what give me and example. There is the most oblivious flaw in using any offense which is you can be hit if you are attempting to hit and opponent. Which Concepcion clearly showed when getting hit with the counter left hook.

Now Pacquiao because he's primarily an offensive fighter has minimised the risk of getting hit whilist throwing his punches by using awkward angles footwork and simply covering his face with his hands if anything comes back, other than the footwork his actual defence isn't exception but it's the combination of attempting to avoid Pacquiao's punch from an odd angle whilst trying to hit him as he spins off after a shot. There are flaws such as him being off balance alot but he's able to throw hard punches while he's off balances. There are postives and negatives to everything he does just like with any fighters.

I disagree with your assessment about Roach fighters, he does teach a great offensive game and while his defensive techniques may not be as effective as Mayweathers it's more than just offense. Look at Khan for instance, he's being hit alot less than he was before he was a Roach fighter, his long jab is a form of defense he throws it from far out and it stops people from getting inside on him. If anyone gets to close he simply sticks his long arms infront of his face and gets into a safe range again. His defense before Roach was much worse. There have been changes to his offensive game but in general Khan was a very good Offesive fighter he just didn't know how to incorporate defense it was one or the other until he came to Roach.

You also can't chalk it all up to Roach some guys will never have the boxing brain to incorporate a great defense it just isn't going to happen. Most people just seem to ignore the slight tweaks to a defense and instead focus on the offensive changes because that's whats most noticable unless your a very defense focused guy with a great defensive eye catching style like Whittaker, Mayweather and the early Guzman years.

Just look at Khan or Chavez Jr., Chavez Jr got hit a fair bit against Duddy but he took alot more punishment against a lesser fighter in Matt Vanda, Khan got tagged harder amnd more frequently against Prescott, Gomez and Limond than he did against Barrera, Kotelnik and Malignaggi but people don't focus on the smaller but equally important defensive tweaks and instead notice the flashier hard straight right hand or counter uppercut that Khan was using against Paulie.

But in general if we aren't talking specifically about Roach fighters then yes offense generates more instant results but against the Elite instant results aren't what a fighter needs.

am afraid, horus would reply when ur not around, so as not to worsen his ownage by you.

[jrosales13]

no he doesnt. forbes doesntmove like floyd.

bernabe moves just like pac. if you PS pacs head on bernabes body. you would think it was pac.

cant say the same for floyd and forbes

No you would not.

If you think they fight alike then Forbes fight just like Floyd.... End of....

[Pacquiao'd]

No you would not.

If you think they fight alike then Forbes fight just like Floyd.... End of....

they have some similarities. but forbes DOESNT not move like floyd. POINT BLANK PERIOD. theres no dis*****g that. unlike bernade and manny

[Seleçăo No. 13]

And to think I actually took this guy's threads seriously. Talk about pure hate.

[Mr. Mandingo]

am afraid, horus would reply when ur not around, so as not to worsen his ownage by you.

Lol, He will do either that or not reply at all pretending to not have read it.

[jrosales13]

they have some similars. but forbes DOESNT not move like floyd. POINT BLANK PERIOD. theres no dis*****g that. unlike bernade and manny

Conception doesn't fight like Manny either POINT BLANK PERIOD.

It might look similar ala Floyd-Forbes connection but that is about it... Don't be a damn fool for once in your life. Stop being so damned biased.

[Swag Hustla]

Freddie Roach refused to train Bernabe because Bernabe has no future. He's a Buboy Fernandez material.

LOL! Buboy never gets love. Poor guy.

[Pacquiao'd]

Conception doesn't fight like Manny either POINT BLANK PERIOD.

It might look similar ala Floyd-Forbes connection but that is about it... Don't be a damn fool for once in your life. Stop being so damned biased.

did i say he fights like manny? NO. i said he moves just like manny. he moves alot more like manny than forbes does floyd.

and why are you responding to me, anyways? put me on ignore already

[jaskieee]

LOL! Buboy never gets love. Poor guy.

Fantasy fight Buboy Fernandez and Leonard Ellerbe. Who do you like, i got Ellerbe by early stoppage.