Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: David Haye Crazy To Snub Klitschko Deal

[WladIsTheChamp]

Do you know how free tv works? The channel pays for the show (the fight) and they make their money back from adverts, the Klitschko's see none of that money. If Wlad is a bigger draw in Germany why did he turn down Hayes offer?

Because he doesn't want that snivilling vagina making one extra cent off his name. Because of the Klitschko name and cache, 5 million Brits would pay PPV in the UK, versus 1 million if Gaye fought Fraudley. Why should Gaye profit from the Klitschko name like that? He has no belts and Wlad has 5, including Ring. The only person here turning down offers is Diva Gaye, she got a 50/50 with no options, it can't be more fair than that. I am going to ask you again, are you obtuse on purpose?

[Rick Grimes]

Because he doesn't want that snivilling vagina making one extra cent off his name. Because of the Klitschko name and cache, 5 million Brits would pay PPV in the UK, versus 1 million if Gaye fought Fraudley. Why should Gaye profit from the Klitschko name like that? He has no belts and Wlad has 5, including Ring. The only person here turning down offers is Diva Gaye, she got a 50/50 with no options, it can't be more fair than that. I am going to ask you again, are you obtuse on purpose?

You think Haye Klitschko would sell more than Hatton-Mayweather? Are you smoking crack?

edit: the Klitschko's get 3 million Euros per fight from RTL it's in their contract, Haye makes a lot more than that and they want a share of the pie.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Why did Wlad turn down Hayes offer? If he is a bigger draw he would have made more money from Hayes offer than 50/50. Haye wants less money but Wlad turns him down and wants to give Haye more money? You klit fans are morons.

It was Gaye who turned down Wlad's offer...everyone but delusional Brit Gayes sees that. Oh and Bunce is an idiot who has been licking Diva's vagina for quite some time now. He has constantly lied about the Klitschkos, including a blatant lie about Wlad's record. Go on YT, and search for "Bunce lies about the Klitschkos". In that video he says that "WK has been in the canvas his last 5 fights"...that wasn't true at all. So if you believe what Dunce and Gaye say, I guess we will always differ in opinion, the only difference is that everyone else will agree with me and not you.

[Rick Grimes]

It was Gaye who turned down Wlad's offer...everyone but delusional Brit Gayes sees that. Oh and Bunce is an idiot who has been licking Diva's vagina for quite some time now. He has constantly lied about the Klitschkos, including a blatant lie about Wlad's record. Go on YT, and search for "Bunce lies about the Klitschkos". In that video he says that "WK has been in the canvas his last 5 fights"...that wasn't true at all. So if you believe what Dunce and Gaye say, I guess we will always differ in opinion, the only difference is that everyone else will agree with me and not you.

Wlad turned down an offer to keep all German revenue and wanted 50/50 because Haye makes more money it's as simple as that. Haye is the new money maker in the HW division and he calls the shots.

[WladIsTheChamp]

You think Haye Klitschko would sell more than Hatton-Mayweather? Are you smoking crack?

edit: the Klitschko's get 3 million Euros per fight from RTL it's in their contract, Haye makes a lot more than that and they want a share of the pie.

Klitschkos on average, after expenses, earn around $10 million per fight, that's widely publicised.

Oh, and I used the 5 million as a PPV number just to illustrate the point that with the Klitschkos name Gaye will sell a lot more in PPV numbers in the UK, that's why the Klitschkos don't want that. They are already offering him 50/50 of EVERYTHING, it can't be more fair than that. There is no way he should keep 100% of UK money because his share is a lot higher because of the Klitschko, not because of his own name, therefore the Klitschkos should share in those revenues. That's my last attempt to explain it to you, I see that you have been dropped on your head too many times when you were young to understand this, so that's my last try...

[Hitman932]

Klitschkos should just offer 60-40 and let Haye keep the PPV if he wants it that bad.

Sadly I don't think giving in to Haye's UK demand would be enough to make the fight happen. If this excuse didn't pan out, there would be another, and then another, and then another.

Kalle Sauerland basically admitted it when he said "the devil is in the details."

Basically he is saying that Haye is in bed with too many people and cannot make a decision that satisfies them all unless it means an easy win and future paydays for all the greedy hands involved.

As much as Haye could learn about boxing from a great fighter like Wladimir Klitschko I think he would stand to gain much more by taking a few lessons from the Klitschko's on how to promote himself independently instead of just making up some sham of a company called "Hayemaker" and then pretending as if the entity had any say in the business matters of his so called career.

[Rick Grimes]

Klitschkos on average, after expenses, earn around $10 million per fight, that's widely publicised.

Oh, and I used the 5 million as a PPV number just to illustrate the point that with the Klitschkos name Gaye will sell a lot more in PPV numbers in the UK, that's why the Klitschkos don't want that. They are already offering him 50/50 of EVERYTHING, it can't be more fair than that. There is no way he should keep 100% of UK money because his share is a lot higher because of the Klitschko, not because of his own name, therefore the Klitschkos should share in those revenues. That's my last attempt to explain it to you, I see that you have been dropped on your head too many times when you were young to understand this, so that's my last try...

So you are admitting that the UK would generate more money than Germany, Uk fans would be buying the fight because of Haye so Haye = Bigger draw. Thank You and good night.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Klitschkos should just offer 60-40 and let Haye keep the PPV if he wants it that bad.

Sadly I don't think giving in to Haye's UK demand would be enough to make the fight happen. If this excuse didn't pan out, there would be another, and then another, and then another.

Kalle Sauerland basically admitted it when he said "the devil is in the details."

Basically he is saying that Haye is in bed with too many people and cannot make a decision that satisfies them all unless it means an easy win and future paydays for all the greedy hands involved.

As much as Haye could learn about boxing from a great fighter like Wladimir Klitschko I think he would stand to gain much more by taking a few lessons from the Klitschko's on how to promote himself independently instead of just making up some sham of a company called "Hayemaker" and then pretending as if the entity had any say in the business matters of his so called career.

Bravo...That's the bottom line - Gaye is a slave to Don King, Saureland, and Golden Boy and cannot do as she wishes. The Klitschkos are free men who dictate their own terms and get 100% off their promotions. Gaye has to share that "one million" PPVs with his pimps. I actually hope that someone else knocks Diva Gaye out, someone like Fraudley, and he comes begging the Klitschkos for a shot but his credibility and marketability would be shot, so the Klitschkos would just laugh in his face and tell her "get in the line...right now, you are a nobody in the HW division", oh wait, Wlad already said that...

[Hitman932]

Bravo...That's the bottom line - Gaye is a slave to Don King, Saureland, and Golden Boy and cannot do as she wishes. The Klitschkos are free men who dictate their own terms and get 100% off their promotions. Gaye has to share that "one million" PPVs with his pimps. I actually hope that someone else knocks Diva Gaye out, someone like Fraudley, and he comes begging the Klitschkos for a shot but his credibility and marketability would be shot, so the Klitschkos would just laugh in his face and tell her "get in the line...right now, you are a nobody in the HW division", oh wait, Wlad already said that...

There are a half dozen guys in the WBA top 15 that would stand an excellent chance of knocking David Haye out.

Not only will Haye not fight either Klitschko but he will not fight Adamek, he won't fight Boytsov, he won't fight Solis, he won't fight Briggs and he won't fight Samuel Peter.

You can look at the Top-15 and be 100% sure that Haye wants none of half the guys rated by the sanctioning body.

Those also happen to be the matchups that fans would most like to see.

Instead you can bet your house that if Haye does not fight Harrison (who again would require a bride to be ranked) you can bet your house that he will choose his opponent from the following: Dennis Bahktov, Timur Ibragimov or more likely a washed up and blown up Jean Marc Mormeck who got his ass kicked by Fres Oquendo and escaped with one of the most dubious decisions of the year.

[WladIsTheChamp]

There are a half dozen guys in the WBA top 15 that would stand an excellent chance of knocking David Haye out.

Not only will Haye not fight either Klitschko but he will not fight Adamek, he won't fight Boytsov, he won't fight Solis, he won't fight Briggs and he won't fight Samuel Peter.

You can look at the Top-15 and be 100% sure that Haye wants none of half the guys rated by the sanctioning body.

Those also happen to be the matchups that fans would most like to see.

Instead you can bet your house that if Haye does not fight Harrison (who again would require a bride to be ranked) you can bet your house that he will choose his opponent from the following: Dennis Bahktov, Timur Ibragimov or more likely a washed up and blown up Jean Marc Mormeck who got his ass kicked by Fres Oquendo and escaped with one of the most dubious decisions of the year.

Yep, he will not face Chagaev...I am sure of that. He will fight Fraudley I think, despite of what he said, surprise, surprise... He will fight Fraudley next year or in Nov/Dec of this year and then retire, claiming that the Klitschkos ducked him.