Hayes manager trying to make up legitimate excuses...

[Jack Napier]

fuck Haye
that ***** needs to retire

[Hitman932]

fuck Haye
that ***** needs to retire

If you look at his activity technically he is more retired already than Floyd Mayweather has ever been.

[Ray*]

I'm sure all you are doing right now is trying to think of how you can phrase a response saying that Wlad is ****** for not agreeing to let Haye keep 100% of the PPV and make more money than him.

WTF??? Because am from the UK you think i have Haye's balls in my face? You must be ******ed, I tell you one thing... If you check my post history about Haye/Wlad and you can find one where i backed him over Wlad or make any excuses for him over the last few weeks then i would donate 1 million point to you. Because my location says london means jack****, I didnt know Wlad doesnt charge PPV in Germany period.

[lfc19titles]

How about this, so the fights held in Germany? In front of 60k people? All of whom would be German and therefore Klitschko fans. They all clearly would buy the ppv if not at the fight. So the Klitschko's either a. should get all gate money or B. be compensated for 60k ppv buys. Pretty simple math in my opinion.

Oh and Hayes a *****.

Oh and the Klitschko's make far more money than Haye.

No they would not all be german, brits are huge boxing fans and at least 20k if not more would be brits

[Ray*]

It doesn't sound fair to David Haye.

I guess you guys can just pay $30 to watch him fight Audley instead of paying $30 to watch him fight Klitschko.

Obviously he knows his fans have a very low boxing IQ and will be willing to pay to see him fight Tony Booth again if it comes down to it.

I guess am talking to the wrong person, You are a moron and a joke, You targeting the wrong english fan, I couldnt care less about Haye, Hatton or any british fighter who do things the wrong way.

[lfc19titles]

if wlad doesnt charge ppv then surely he gets huge advertising revenue between rounds when they go to adverts?

so let me gets this right, wlad should keep ppv money from the uk which haye makes since wlad only fights on free tv lol?

wow, I wish klit fans would stop also restorting to "you are a nut hugger, you suck haye balls" if they dont bow down and accept the brothers as their ****ing god

[Hitman932]

WTF??? Because am from the UK you think i have Haye's balls in my face? You must be ******ed, I tell you one thing... If you check my post history about Haye/Wlad and you can find one where i backed him over Wlad or make any excuses for him over the last few weeks then i would donate 1 million point to you. Because my location says london means jack****, I didnt know Wlad doesnt charge PPV in Germany period.

Well I apologize for singling you out but the topic has been beaten to death the past few days and I have been trying to no avail to explain Haye's angle to English fans who just seem to let it go right over their heads.

The scenario Haye is proposing will 100% surely lead to him making more money than Wlad, that is why he wants it. He is basically saying "I will not fight Klitschko because I want it 55-45 or 60-40 in my favor" which is how it would turn out if Haye got his wish.

Haye knows that a PPV against Klitschko will draw 3 or 4 times as many viewers as his PPV against Ruiz.

So common sense tells you that 75% of the audience is turning in because it's Wladimir Klitschko why should he not get at least 50% of revenue?

Haye knows a Klitschko fight will quadruple the viewers and even with only a 50% cut he would still bring home double or more the PPV revenue he generated in his last fight whilst taking 100%.

Even with double or triple his normal PPV, 50% of a 10 million dollar purse, HBO money + German TV money Haye will not take the fight.

What does that say?

I hope I made this easier to understand and I didn't mean to be a **** I am just tired of explaining it to people when 90% of Haye's fans just choose to ignore it like it's not FACT.

[Hitman932]

I guess am talking to the wrong person, You are a moron and a joke, You targeting the wrong english fan, I couldnt care less about Haye, Hatton or any british fighter who do things the wrong way.

Hatton is a bright shining example of heroism compared to David Haye.

Maybe Amir Khan would have been more appropriate for the point you were making.

[knn]

Well I apologize for singling you out but the topic has been beaten to death the past few days and I have been trying to no avail to explain Haye's angle to English fans who just seem to let it go right over their heads.

The scenario Haye is proposing will 100% surely lead to him making more money than Wlad, that is why he wants it. He is basically saying "I will not fight Klitschko because I want it 55-45 or 60-40 in my favor" which is how it would turn out if Haye got his wish.

Haye knows that a PPV against Klitschko will draw 3 or 4 times as many viewers as his PPV against Ruiz.

So common sense tells you that 75% of the audience is turning in because it's Wladimir Klitschko why should he not get at least 50% of revenue?

Haye knows a Klitschko fight will quadruple the viewers and even with only a 50% cut he would still bring home double or more the PPV revenue he generated in his last fight whilst taking 100%.

Even with double or triple his normal PPV, 50% of a 10 million dollar purse, HBO money + German TV money Haye will not take the fight.

What does that say?

I hope I made this easier to understand and I didn't mean to be a **** I am just tired of explaining it to people when 90% of Haye's fans just choose to ignore it like it's not FACT.

Nah, I don't think you are getting it correct. You try to put too much effort into analyzing what Haye said.

It's the OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK that you can make ANY NEGOTIATION FAIL by making EXTREME DEMANDS.

• CNN: "Mr. Vagin would like to ask you really tough questions in our CNN show"
• Mr. Vagin: "OK, I am willing to participate, but you need to pay me 1 million dollar"
• CNN: "Sorry, that it too much"
• Mr. Vagin: "I was very willing to participate but we couldn't never finalize the deal. The money details were the problem. I never said no to CNN"

[Spray_resistant]

What a pitifully lame excuse not accept a shot at the real HW champion of the world for an extremely generous 50/50 offer...

Haye is a joke.