Pacfans please make sense of this for me and explain

[neoz]

So if someone said your a *** even though u never been touchings guys and want you to take a lie detector test would u be offend?

Back to topic
Your an idiot. You realised Manny has had one catchweight and somehow he the fighter who always make demands?
Floyd couldn't even turn up at the correct weight the farking cheat.

[Vadrigar.]

So if someone said your a *** even though u never been touchings guys and want you to take a lie detector test would u be offend?

Back to topic
Your an idiot. You realised Manny has had one catchweight and somehow he the fighter who always make demands?
Floyd couldn't even turn up at the correct weight the farking cheat.

Yes that's true, but what about the demands that Floyd made?

Should pacquiao accept them?

[makaveli87]

Except Cotto isn't dumb. He's made 146 several time without a catch weight of 146. I'm sure if he had to, knowing months beforehand, he could have made 145 many times without trouble. Actually Cotto is a respectful guy who knew his opponent could make 140 but was fighting him at WW. So he did it out of respect and 145 wasn't a big stretch for him. He didn't loose because of the weight either.

Mayweather's demands are transparent.

[Vadrigar.]

Except Cotto isn't dumb. He's made 146 several time without a catch weight of 146. I'm sure if he had to, knowing months beforehand, he could have made 145 many times without trouble. Actually Cotto is a respectful guy who knew his opponent could make 140 but was fighting him at WW. So he did it because of respect and 145 wasn't a big stretch for him. He didn't loose because of the weight either.

Mayweather's demands are transparent.

You're right about cotto. He said in a statement he had no problem making the weight and he didn't make excuses after the fight either. Cotto is very respectful to his opponent and gives them credit.

In bold: The heart of his argument is, USADA is simple better than standard testing. There are some substances standard testing cant pick up. Floyd is not confident in standard testing for this reason, especially since other athletes in the past managed to pass standard testing without being caught.

After all, the purpose of testing is to ensure that no fighter gains an unfair advantage. Everyone is on a level playing field. Floyd argues that better testing is needed for this principle to be put into practice.

[AFighter4U]

There was loads of threads bashing Mayweather for it loads both from each sides, Of course excuses would be made and those were made but this thread isnt about Mayweather.

True, this thread is about ****** things a number of Pac fans say/do. There's no denying that and there's no stopping that either. This is a simple fact of life not only on Pac's case but on any athlete at his level and with a huge fanbase.

You can never really control what kind of fans you end up with and there was even a great book by stephen king related to this called "Misery" which was turned into an equally excellent movie starring Michael Caan.

All i'm saying is that acts such as these and other related stuff like trolling is just part of the internet landscape and raging all about it is an exercise in futility. Simply go about your business, appreciate the decent, open minded posters and ignore the trolls that inevitably cross your path.

Or you can troll the trolls. Whatever rubs your buddah.

[IMDAZED]

Except Cotto isn't dumb. He's made 146 several time without a catch weight of 146. I'm sure if he had to, knowing months beforehand, he could have made 145 many times without trouble. Actually Cotto is a respectful guy who knew his opponent could make 140 but was fighting him at WW. So he did it out of respect and 145 wasn't a big stretch for him. He didn't loose because of the weight either.

Mayweather's demands are transparent.

Exactly. They are so what's the issue?

[Red Rebel]

In bold: The heart of his argument is, USADA is simple better than standard testing. There are some substances standard testing cant pick up. Floyd is not confident in standard testing for this reason, especially since other athletes in the past managed to pass standard testing without being caught.

then talk to the comission. a boxing forum won't help your crusade.

I suspect you'll get aroused kissing your buddy's ******. If you think you won't get aroused, i dare you try. If you won't try, then your gay.

see, what's behind the smoke?

[AFighter4U]

You're right about cotto. He said in a statement he had no problem making the weight and he didn't make excuses after the fight either. Cotto is very respectful to his opponent and gives them credit.

In bold: The heart of his argument is, USADA is simple better than standard testing. There are some substances standard testing cant pick up. Floyd is not confident in standard testing for this reason, especially since other athletes in the past managed to pass standard testing without being caught.

After all, the purpose of testing is to ensure that no fighter gains an unfair advantage. Everyone is on a level playing field. Floyd argues that better testing is needed for this principle to be put into practice.

Actually, Manny has agreed to all the requirements of USADA.

Originally Posted by T.I. View Post
From Tygart (USADA):

Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?

A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not."



Q: One other thing I wanted to touch base with you on -- when the Mayweather-Pacquiao discussions finally fell apart at the beginning of the month, it came down to a 10-day differential; Mayweather bent to 'I'll agree to 14 days prior to the event when there will be no blood testing,' and Pacquiao wouldn't go later than 24 days. Even if Mayweather had yielded to 24 days, what can an athlete do in 24 days? I mean, if you're clean 24 days before the fight, what can you do in the next 24 days that would have any impact on the fight whatsoever?

A: "The human growth hormone for sure, levels of testosterone, and other designer steroids. Sounds like you've got some information -- I'm not agreeing factually that was the difference, and I'm not disagreeing. But if that's the case, the other piece is that, prior to that 14-day or 24-day blackout period, what system was in place? Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...current_d.html

[Vadrigar.]

then talk to the comission. a boxing forum won't help your crusade.

I suspect you'll get aroused kissing your buddy's ******. If you think you won't get aroused, i dare you try. If you won't try, then your gay.

see, what's behind the smoke?

I'm not making the demands. That's Floyd. His crusade not mine.

[Vadrigar.]

Actually, Manny has agreed to all the requirements of USADA.

Originally Posted by T.I. View Post
From Tygart (USADA):

Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?

A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not."



Q: One other thing I wanted to touch base with you on -- when the Mayweather-Pacquiao discussions finally fell apart at the beginning of the month, it came down to a 10-day differential; Mayweather bent to 'I'll agree to 14 days prior to the event when there will be no blood testing,' and Pacquiao wouldn't go later than 24 days. Even if Mayweather had yielded to 24 days, what can an athlete do in 24 days? I mean, if you're clean 24 days before the fight, what can you do in the next 24 days that would have any impact on the fight whatsoever?

A: "The human growth hormone for sure, levels of testosterone, and other designer steroids. Sounds like you've got some information -- I'm not agreeing factually that was the difference, and I'm not disagreeing. But if that's the case, the other piece is that, prior to that 14-day or 24-day blackout period, what system was in place? Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...current_d.html

So why does Floyd want unlimited cut off?