margo versus manny..lets break it down

[Pullcounter]

remember Cotto befuddling Margs with lateral movement and superior handspeed in the early part of their fight?



now picture that for 12 rounds, if Margs holds up that long

co-sign.

pac is gonna pepper marg w/ combos then turn marg. we could get another hattonesque KTFO cause marg doesn't know any other way.

[Audie78]

so because cotto was ruined by the time he fought pac, i'm going to bet on another ruined fighter (marg) to beat him?

no, thanks

i'd love to watch this fight though

By using this logic any fighter that has a loss on his record is a "ruined" fighter, so I guess in your book Manny is also "runied".

[tesla_power]

cotto did that fighting backwards..which is why his punches had no power..can manny fight backwards??

Yes he can. But IMO Cotto had more success in close quarter exchanges than backwards fighting in the Marg fight. IMO, if he did not spend much energy moving backwards as much, he might have been able to win that one ...unless Marg could push him backwards during exchanges to get the leverage he needs for a power punch.

[Zerwas1]

OK what does Margarito have:
Slow
Weak punches (now)
bad technique
no defense
got hit by a brick wall (mosley)

What has Manny:
Everything but size and reach. Ko 8

[borgata]

Mosley hits a lot harder then Williams does. Manny is not really a small WW either. Compared to Marg, yes, but he's not in general. Mosley clinching threw Margarito off him his gameplan. Smart movement will also do that to Margarito. Cotto did not have smart movement.

Mosley is a big strong WW...who failed to stop Cotto. Manny did that.

how many fights has manny had at WW? ****ing tool.....

[DR.ORGYY]

action fight but pac would **** margo up......

[F l i c k e r]

Speed is the deciding factor in this fight.

If Manny's speed proves to be too much for Margarito(like Hatton and Diaz), then he will cruise to a 12 round UD. Manny doesn't have the type of power to break Margarito. So knocking him out is out of the question, that's a fan boy thought. It's the same thing as people thinking Floyd would knock out Mosley. Fanboy-ism.

HOWEVER.. if Manny's speed doesn't rattle Margarito, then expect Pacquiao to do great the first half then suddenly slow down the second half of the fight. Then Margarito will stop him in the championship rounds.


The only way Margarito won't hit Pacquiao is if Pacquiao's speed is too much for him. If it isn't too much for him and he is able to still land, expect Pacquiao to slow down the second half. Why? Because Margarito aims for the head AND body. When those body punches start digging into Pacquiao's frame, he will slow down and then need to fight backwards because Margarito doesn't give people room to breath. When that starts happening, he will stop Pacquiao. Pacquiao isn't a juggernaut and isn't the hardest thing to hit. He will be stopped if he starts to fade in the 2nd half.


Anyone using Mosley as an example needs to realise his gameplan. And his gameplan against Marg requires 3 things that Manny doesn't have.

1. Body punching. Manny's gameplan isn't to go purely for the body. "Oh but clottey" shut the **** up. He wanted to hit Clottey's face but Clottey wouldn't open up so he didn't know what the fuck to do until Roach said go for the body inbetween rounds.

2. Clinching. Manny can't clinch for ****. Whether it's offensive clinching to smother an opponent and not let them retaliate or if it's defensive clinching, when you get hurt. He doesn't clinch for ****.

3. 1 punch KO power. That is something Pacquiao does not have. Fuck you fan boys, he doesn't have near the level of power as Mosley. Mosley needed to throw huge hayemaker bombs to hurt Marg. First to the body then he started going up top when Marg was obviously broken.

Those 3 things Manny needs if your going to use Mosley as an example. And fact is, Manny doesn't do those things and doesn't have the same power as Shane.

If Manny is to win it will be like his fight with Oscar. He will out speed and make him miss at every turn for 12 rounds. That's the only way he can win unless they make Marg fight at below 147 catchweight.

Otherwise Manny gets grinded down and finished late.

[mathed]

Margs walks forward and Manny smacks him in the jaw all night. Margs applies pressure but Pac's stamina allows him to get away all night. Margs hurts Pac if he catches him on the ropes but Pac won't let that happen. Without plaster in his gloves, Margs' chin might not survive the beating and he gets tko'd in the 11th.

***I just can't see how Marg's face is gonna take 4 punch combos for 12 rds without splitting to pieces- I don't care what kind of a chin he has, a face has ridges which split the skin covering them...the cheeks and eyebrows.

[Heckler]

Margarito TKO rounds 10-12. Margarito is simply to big. He throws 100 punches a round, he hits hard, has a chin, a solid recipe for beating Pacman in a scrap. It would be similar to Cotto where he is winning for the first 3 rounds than Margarito just imposes his style/size on him.

Manny doesn't hit nearly as hard as Mosley. Mosley couldn't throw 1000 punches a fight nobody would last against him. I don't think that Manny could KO Margarito, where as I can see Margs KOin Manny. Manny could win a decision but I just don't see him lasting threw Margs tornado of punches(just as many see PBF getting overwhelmed by Manny) for 12 rounds.

Manny doesnt hit nearly as hard? I think will you find he does. Thats fking absurd to be honest. He isn't as strong, and his hands aren't has 'heavy'. But in terms of head jarring, concussive, sharp blows he is one of the best the sport has seen. Manny Hurt Cotto with hard concussive power shots initially. Not volume.

[Pullcounter]

how many fights has manny had at WW? ****ing tool.....

steward said pac was basically a lightweight. true story.