Name One Top Class Fighter Jones Ever Faced

[Neuraxis]

This topic is funny. Shows that the starter is clueless about boxing. This was a first. Who has Jones ever fought? LMAO. Whatever.

Who are all these guys Jones ducked? And don't even try saying DM. Jones had all the belts that matter, WBC, WBA, IBF. DM had the one WBO belt, which back then wasn't even considered anything. DM wasn't willing to come here. Since Jones had the real belts and was the real champ not only literally, but by every reputable boxing reporter in the world, it was not Jones that ducked DM.

Julio Gonzales beat DM. Jones easily beat Julio Gonzales BEFORE Julio beat DM. DM couldn't even beat Jones' leftovers successfully. And DM is younger than Jones.

And if anybody tries naming a heavyweight Jones ducked, you're a moron. Cause he didn't duck any heavyweights. And let's say he would have, so what? He was a light heavyweight. The fact that the public was clamoring for this guy to go to heavyweight shows his greatness.

I guess Jones didn't care about becoming the linear champ then. And you don't seem to mind that he wasn't either. Johnson destroyed Jones and Gonzalez beat Johnson so go figure. Jones ducked Nunn and Rocchigiani. DM is older than Jones. DM was willing to come here but Jones wanted a 70/30 purse split. How can you call the one who started this thread clueless and then go on to make a post like that?

[DamienFromTheAshes]

Jones was the champ. He only had to agree to 75/25 purse split. 70/30 was MORE than generous for a guy nobody here had heard of.

Jones beat Gonzales. so what's your point there? That made no sense. Yes, Jones is obviously done now. How did Jones duck Rocchigiani? Get real, you try to make it sound like that bum was anything. He was the one who didn't want to fight Jones after Jones had the title. He didn't even fairly win the title anyhow. And he was a ****** for sueing the WBC over it. I don't support the WBC, but if I were them, I'd tell Rocchigiani to go **** himself too.

[DamienFromTheAshes]

Why am I even bothering to argue with a Wlad Klitschko fan?

[The Fix]

Actually I've never said Jones fought B level fighters. I have said that he tended to shy away from the tougher fights, and I have said that I think that DM would have beaten Jones. For the sake of this argument I am going to ignore DM's last fight and RJJ's last 2 fights. DM and RJJ had many similar opponents and not counting RJJ second try at Griffin, DM finished all of them off sooner than RJJ did except Hill who DM beat before RJJ did. Thus winning the WBA and IBF belts and becoming the linear champ. The only good fighters that Jones beat that DM didn't face were an injured Harding, Tarver, a nearly 40 year old McCallum, and a heavyweight Ruiz if you want to count him because DM would never have been able to use his style at HW. The only good fighter that DM beat that Roy didn't face because he ducked him, Rocchigiani (counting Thazdi would just be a low blow to Toney fans). But Roy also ducked the fighter who Rocchigiani beat before DM beat him for the 2nd time in Michael Nunn.

roy didnt duck nunn. roy went after the man that beat nunn. also you forgot to mention dm never fought hopkins and toney (both far and away better than anyone one dm ever fought)

[Neuraxis]

roy didnt duck nunn. roy went after the man that beat nunn. also you forgot to mention dm never fought hopkins and toney (both far and away better than anyone one dm ever fought)

In 1997 Michael Nunn was RJJ WBC mandatory, Roy gave up the WBC belt and said that he was going to make the jump up to heavyweight. Nunn fights Rocchigiani and loses. Rocchigiani thus won the WBC light heavyweight title. In his next fight he loses to DM, so thus DM should have won yet another belt making that every single major LHW belt. 6 months after Nunn lost to Rocchigiani Jones decides not to make the jump up after all and says he wants the belt back. The WBC suddenly declares Rocchigiani to be the interim champ and gives the belt back to RJJ. Shouldn't RJJ have had to beat Rocchigiani in order to get the belt back? Well most people think that he should have and Rocchigiani sued the WBC and won $31 million.

As far as Toney and Hopkins, we are talking just LHW here. Toney wasn't that great at LHW and Hopkins wasn't a LHW. LHW was probably Toney's weakest weight class. Just ask Drake Thazdi and Montel Griffin two fighters who beat Toney who DM beat easily.

[Neuraxis]

Here is a great RJJ site to educate you:
http://www.geocities.com/boxing_news2002/

[Dark Destroyer]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Is this thread still going??? Come on people leave Roy alone. He's lost now, isn't that enough to please your hateful minds?

[ProBox1]

In 1997 Michael Nunn was RJJ WBC mandatory, Roy gave up the WBC belt and said that he was going to make the jump up to heavyweight. Nunn fights Rocchigiani and loses. Rocchigiani thus won the WBC light heavyweight title. In his next fight he loses to DM, so thus DM should have won yet another belt making that every single major LHW belt. 6 months after Nunn lost to Rocchigiani Jones decides not to make the jump up after all and says he wants the belt back. The WBC suddenly declares Rocchigiani to be the interim champ and gives the belt back to RJJ. Shouldn't RJJ have had to beat Rocchigiani in order to get the belt back? Well most people think that he should have and Rocchigiani sued the WBC and won $31 million.

As far as Toney and Hopkins, we are talking just LHW here. Toney wasn't that great at LHW and Hopkins wasn't a LHW. LHW was probably Toney's weakest weight class. Just ask Drake Thazdi and Montel Griffin two fighters who beat Toney who DM beat easily.

Toney was robbed in both Griffin bouts, even a blind man could see the poor decision in the second of their two fights.

The bottom line with Roy Jones Jr. is this, people can say what they want but the man won titles in 4 different weight classes. He has a set ticket for the hall of fame and has been rated the number one fighter in the world for several years, up until the loss to Antonio Tarver. He began his career at 154 and won his last title at heavyweight, something that wasnt accomplished in over 100 years.

Jones beat Hopkins who has not been beat since. He beat Ruiz who has not been beat since. He dominated Toney and Toney has not been dominated in any of his other losses. Forget the established names on his resume, he took on and beat many undefeated fighters from 160-175.

As far as him ducking DM, DM was never anything to duck. He had more then his share of gift decisions and was terrified to leave Germany. Jones was one of the biggest names in the boxing world with seven light heavyweight titles and DM wanted Jones to travel to Germany in order to make the fight. Jones was the champion, Jones had all the titles and Jones brought the money to the table, who hell was DM to command where and when the fight should take place. Only a handful of people even knew who DM was outside of Germany. After everything is said and done, DM never did accomplished anything to brag about in his career other then holding the WBO's version of the light heavyweight title hostage in Germany. Jirov was willing to fight DM in Germany, at 190 and DM demanded an amount of money that no promoter would be able to come up with for that fight.

[rsl]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Is this thread still going??? Come on people leave Roy alone. He's lost now, isn't that enough to please your hateful minds?

Nope, not quite getting close though. I posted it in the past that people shouldn't watch Roy's next fight , if Jones Jr. does decide to step back in the ring for the excuses he has stated in the media about not being motivated, well boxing fans don't wanna be treated to a fight where a guy is not giving it all cause "it's hard to get up for fights like this" Roy Jones Jr. said. However I am not completely satisfied with seeing this guy lose twice in a row. What I would want is this guy to get a thorough beating. I wanna see this guy get tortured in the ring and then get K.T.F.O again only this time it'll be in the 12th rd. However there's a very slim chance of that happening if he feels he doesn't have a chance in hell to win, ROY will probably pull a No Mas in the latter of the 1st rd. What I would love to see is something very similar to when Ali and I forget who the opponent was, but Ali kept asking the fighter what his name was, while giving him a spanking cause the guy had refused to call him by his ****** name prior to the fight. What I would want this certain fighter to ask Roy while in the midst of giving Jones Jr. the worst beating of his life is "You better say yes, when I ask you if you are motivated for this fight" There's only 1 fighter out there that I would give this opportunity to giving the beatdown of Roy's life ala Ivan Drago vs. Apollo Creed and that is James Toney

[jabsRstiff]

Rick Reeno.....Excellent post !


The problem is that so many have a distaste for Jones (which is understandable) that clouds their objectivity.

He annoyed the hell out of me for a great part of his career, but I never let that keep from putting his abilities & accomplishments into proper perspective.