Name One Top Class Fighter Jones Ever Faced

[rsl]

I've wriiten all kinds of post about Roy "Super*****" Jones Jr. especially after his two consecutive comatose like k.o.'s. Nobody will get any argument out of me as far as Roy Jones Jr's superhuman athletic ability, but talent alone doesn't give anyone a free pass alongside the greats of their respective sport . In my book to be considered a great athlete one has to show tremendous fortitude and Jones Jr. fails in that miserably, talent alone will take someone a long way, but everyone is forgetting about the importance of having a Champion attitude and Roy clearly lacks in that department. As far as Roy's performances in big fights I haven't been impressed for the most part. There's only 7 fights of his that I would consider to have any significance as far as proving he belongs with the all-time greats. 1st one would be the first Montell Griffin fight, my initial thoughts prior to this bout ,well I was interested to see how Jones would react to a real light heavy w/ speed and a crafty one in Montell, I saw the first and mid-rounds go to Griffin and Jones was being very tentative and went back to the ropes alot , and I had Griffin ahead on points prior to the DQ, however Roy was starting to get some rhythm and the tempo was changin. Roy's foul on Griffin showed his insecurity, but this fight is a plus for Jones despite the DQ. 2nd the rematch with Montell(need I say more). 3rd B-HOPS fight, both fighters showed too much respect for each other I don't think it would've made much of a difference if Roy hadn't injured his hand as far as the action of the fight was concerned(Roy wins this one, but in big fights the great ones take the initiative to force the action and show the willingness to control the fight no matter who is in front of them, Jones fails in this one. 4th Toney in '94, this was a lopsided affair, however I don't think Jones proved that he was a great fighter in this matchup, he was just the faster fighter , he displayed a disgusting way to victory by shoeshinin' his way to a win, RJJ again showed his lack of balls by hittin and runnin' instead of stickin' and movin' Big difference. For those people who think that was a real knockdown on Toney, it was more of Toney being off balance from a Jones feint is all that was. 5th is the 1st Tarver fight, having not seen the fight myself I have to go with the popular opinion of other people in which it was a close fight but Jones Jr. actually showed some grit and pulled it out(kudos to Roy). 6th Tarver rematch what we have been suspecting all along. 7TH Glencoffe fight- After this debacle how can anybody STILL ARGUE ABOUT JONES belonging with the ALI'S, CHAVEZ ,etc... Giving Jones the "great" label is an insult to the other fighters who left every ounce they had in the ring and Roy Jones Jr. was ALWAYS too scared to do that!

[Sweet Dick Willy]

We can go on and on about who ducked who. I honestly believe Jones and Dariusz ducked each other. All they did is talk. I got sick of it and ignored it after a while. Instead of having the fight in the USA or Germany, they should've had it in a neutral country like Afghanistan for all I cared. Dariusz beats Hill (by decision) years after RJJ Ko'd him convincingly with one punch in 4 rounds. Again, that's an example of Dariusz beating a faded fighter years after RJJ handled him. Griffin, Richard Hall, Derrick Harmon, etc. all came AFTER RJJ beat them to death. The fact taht Dariusz had two life and death struggles with Hall (who Rico Hoye whose a stiff KOd in 2 rounds) speaks for how much of a garbage fighter Dariusz was. That said, RJJ is a b!tch for not fighting him and proving my point. RJJ at his best vs. Dariusz at his best is a blowout. I'm not a Roy Jones lover or hater. For everything good I can say about him, I can say something bad. But Dariusz is partly responsible too for their fight never coming off

[Neuraxis]

He didn't do that by beating Eric Harding, Montell Griffin and Roy Jones?

Why don't you hold Wlad to those same standards?

He lost to Harding the first time and was losing the second time as well until he TKO'd him. Everyone is saying that Jones was shot. I am saying that Tarver has to prove that he did so well against Jones because he is that good and he can do so by dominating the LHW division.

No one is saying that Wlad is a top class fighter. I am simply saying that he has the potential to become one.

[Neuraxis]

We can go on and on about who ducked who. I honestly believe Jones and Dariusz ducked each other. All they did is talk. I got sick of it and ignored it after a while. Instead of having the fight in the USA or Germany, they should've had it in a neutral country like Afghanistan for all I cared. Dariusz beats Hill (by decision) years after RJJ Ko'd him convincingly with one punch in 4 rounds. Again, that's an example of Dariusz beating a faded fighter years after RJJ handled him. Griffin, Richard Hall, Derrick Harmon, etc. all came AFTER RJJ beat them to death. The fact taht Dariusz had two life and death struggles with Hall (who Rico Hoye whose a stiff KOd in 2 rounds) speaks for how much of a garbage fighter Dariusz was. That said, RJJ is a b!tch for not fighting him and proving my point. RJJ at his best vs. Dariusz at his best is a blowout. I'm not a Roy Jones lover or hater. For everything good I can say about him, I can say something bad. But Dariusz is partly responsible too for their fight never coming off

What part about DM not ducking RJJ did you not understand? What part about DM beating Hill first don't you understand? And finally how is winning a fight 98-93, 97-93, 97-93 before you TKO your opponent a life and death struggle?

[tracylee]

Tracy Lee,

Tarver did not beat 5 top 5 fighters before Jones.

Lincoln Carter had a good record vs. journeyman. He wasn't even top 15. Montell Griffin had already been beaten with Dariusz and was barely top 10 and was considered waaaaaaaaaaaaay past his best, Chris Johnson was a decent fighter but by the time Tarver fought him he was barely top 10, if at all. Eric Harding was top 5.

You're exaggerating big time

No I didnt. He has the record to prove it. Look, youve done nothing but try and be an ass to everyone, and you succeeded. DONT refer to me (I will ignore you)..DONT quote me(find somebody else) and DONT message me (I will delete it). Since you've put so much effort into offending myself and others; leave me out of your comments, etc.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Look here whore, I've never messaged you.

Say somethign ****** and I will make you look ******. Which Iv'e done

I p[roved you wrong. Tarver DID NOT beat 5 top 5 opponents.

learn your boxing

[tracylee]

Look here whore, I've never messaged you.

Say somethign ****** and I will make you look ******. Which Iv'e done

I p[roved you wrong. Tarver DID NOT beat 5 top 5 opponents.

learn your boxing

go **** yourself you ****** bastard. If I'm a whore you'd never know about it..idiot. YOU made ME look ******? Keep telling yourself that

[The Fix]

Tracy Lee,

Tarver did not beat 5 top 5 fighters before Jones.

Lincoln Carter had a good record vs. journeyman. He wasn't even top 15. Montell Griffin had already been beaten with Dariusz and was barely top 10 and was considered waaaaaaaaaaaaay past his best, Chris Johnson was a decent fighter but by the time Tarver fought him he was barely top 10, if at all. Eric Harding was top 5.

You're exaggerating big time

montell griffin is still top 10. most thought he had beaten rico hoye whos is currently ranked 5th by the wbc

[tracylee]

montell griffin is still top 10. most thought he had beaten rico hoye whos is currently ranked 5th by the wbc

Funny thing is, I never said he beat 5 top 5 fighter....I said 5 top 10 fighters, which he did.

[Neuraxis]

Way to duck my questions.